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Old 04-10-2005, 05:43 PM   #21
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Ol Timer: If reliability is the only thing stopping you from owning a classic VW... you really need to get with the program. You can pick up a classic [not a split window.. those are a little more, plus you have do deal with 6v electronics.. umm.. 12v for me please!, '63 was the last year for 6v I believe] for $2000, usually with a straight, rust free body. Pass on a car that needs new pans or heater channels. That'll be a B****-and-a-half. http://www.thesamba.com/ is a GREAT resource in the VW Community. They have a VERY large classified ad section, for all VWs. Not to mention they have just all around great information. If you go to Florida, the classics are everywhere. I spotted about 25 for sale [mind you, 10 were all at a classic VW dealership, ALL CLASSIC VWs! I had to admit, I did spend a little over an hour there. Drooling, these aren't restored to beautiful masterpieces.. these are just your average, dull paint beetles. That run and drive just fine. Plus they had two VW things, several buses of all gens, and 10 bugs [the guy there said they get rid of about 10-20% of their stock in a month], the others were private sellers, or a stray one on a dealer lot.

The '67 had 50hp? You sure about that? I know in '63 they still had the 1200cc, but after that I am not sure if they stepped it up to the 1336cc, or when the 1600cc came into play. My mom'* old [now my dad'*] '78 super had the 1600cc, which was Fuel Injected, amazingly! I think it had around 50hp, but don't quote me on that.
Very short VW History
1952 - Last split window was produced
1954 - 1200 cc 36HP engine (and this is GROSS HP)
1955 - Twin tail pipe muffler - flashing turn signals instead of semaphores(these were, now how can I describe these things, basically directional signals that snaped open from the B-Pillars)
1960 - 1200 cc 40HP engine
1961 - Fuel Gauge Installed - formerly there was a reserve tank you opened up when you ran out of gas that you had to remember to close when you filled up the tank otherwise you went thru the regular and reserve tank and that was that.
1966 - 1300cc 50HP engine - last year for 6V system
1967 - 1500cc 53HP engine - first year for 12V system - Duel Master Cylinder Brake System

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And what'* this, your '67 didn't have Heat? How rusted were your heater channels? If your heater channels were that bad, you must of had plywood for pans, huh? hehe . You wouldn't drive a classic in the winter, would you? As you can see.. not really quite an even match. I have a biased opinion, though.
Actually, I was being slightly facetious about the heat. It did have plenty of heat BUT ONLY when you were driving on the highway. Remember, these were air cooled (actually Oil Cooled) engines and the faster the engines turned, the more air was pumped into the heat exchangers. So just puttering around town was not a warm and fuzzy experience. To get the windshield to defrost, you had to close the rear and floor flaps to direct the air to the windshield. On my car something was lost in the translation as I was constantly scraping the ice off the windshield while I was diriving. Remember, the windshield was right against my nose when driving so it didn't take much to extend my arm out the window to clear the windshield of ice and snow.

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My mom'* VW has power everything [incl. windows]. It is an '04, also. And we are having so many electrical issues with our'*. Including the windows, my switch seldom works, but her'* [incl the passenger window] works just fine every time. Sometimes the auto feature works, most times not.
Yeah, I'm hoping this car does not develop the maladies I've heard others have. At least I know how this car has been treated in the past so I know it was not abused in anyway. The interior and exterior look almost like the day she bought it. I've seen many off these New Beelles with one headlight bulb burnt out. Both bulbs were replaced on my car recently. Other things I don't like (besides needing premium fuel), is 5W-40 oil. I believe this is Synthetic Oil. Also, changing the transmission oil might be a problem since these cars do not have a dip stick to check the level of the transmission oil


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Just my opinion... i'm a classic kind of guy. New cars really don't do it for me.
-justin
Believe me. I would love to still own every car I drove in the 60'* and seventies. One other thing, almost 90% of the things that went wrong with an old bug could be fixed with either a 10 or 13mm open end wrench. Talk about simpler times.


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i hate that effing car, an undercover cop ( in a *&[email protected]($ing snap orange beetle) gave me a ticket. 81 in 65.

ok ok ok it is sharp looking with the interior and rims and prolly fun to drive....



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SSuperchargedEi: I am telling you from experience, driving both cars. There is no freakin' way that my mom'* VW even comes close to comparing to my car.

Also, I know for a fact my car does high 17s, low 18s stock. C&D did the test back in '91 was it? Something like that. I saw a stock Monte Carlo [*/C 3800] run low or mid 17s at the Super Chevy Show. No way a Monte, especially with a */C is going to be the same speed as my car. Especially in stock form. I know for a fact my car isn't that fast.

Wow, I am kind of slow. You quoted an '87. '87 had an LG3, not an LN3 [like I had]. The LG3 made 150hp [unsure about tq specs, but they made less power, that'* for sure]. Personally, those figures don't add up. Somebody back me up here, this isn't making sense. Also, I think we should stop hijacking this thread. If you want to continue this talk, either start a new thread, or PM me. If you want to be an *** about it, keep it offline. I'm just saying it isn't adding up. Guaranteed my car doesn't run 17.3. If you want to talk more about this in this thread, I will not respond. If you really think this is worth fighting about, make a new thread or PM me.


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I am not a fan of those, but when I was driving by auto lots, I said that if I owned one, that would be it. Color and everything. Looks like you got a nice vehicle. Now you just need these:

HPA 4motion conversion

HPA Twin-turbo upgrade

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Again, you can't get a Beetle with a V-6-yet. It takes HPA an additional 16 hours to install a 2.8LV-6 engine in a Beetle (either a Euro-spec 204-hp/ 24-valver as this car has or U.*.-spec 174-hp/12-valve VR6) and two KKK turbos good for an additional 304 hp, bringing the total to an amazing 508 hp.
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I am not a fan of those, but when I was driving by auto lots, I said that if I owned one, that would be it. Color and everything. Looks like you got a nice vehicle. Now you just need these:

HPA 4motion conversion

HPA Twin-turbo upgrade

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Again, you can't get a Beetle with a V-6-yet. It takes HPA an additional 16 hours to install a 2.8LV-6 engine in a Beetle (either a Euro-spec 204-hp/ 24-valver as this car has or U.*.-spec 174-hp/12-valve VR6) and two KKK turbos good for an additional 304 hp, bringing the total to an amazing 508 hp.
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The Turbo Beatles/Jettas are pretty decent cars minus the plastics/electronics. My buddy just got an 03 1.8T jetta 5 speed and YES it has some power.....




Also not to promote thread hijacking but I do also think a LG3 bonnie would be in the high 16s and the automatic n/a beetle would be in the mid 17s if not slower. FYI: that list that appears EVERYWHERE on the internet is EXTREMELY inaccurate for some cars
H-Body L27 Cars
L27 - 1992 Ponitac Bonneville SSE 9.5 17.0
L27 - 1993 Pontiac Bonneville SLE 8.6 16.5
L27 - 1994 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight 8.0 16.5
L27 - 1992 Buick LeSabre Limited 8.8 16.6
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