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Old 11-12-2007, 12:26 AM   #11
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First, is your child injured? If there'* any visible injury you should take him in to teh ER and get checked. At that point you can tell the Dr. what happened, and let them handle it. That way you didn't press the charges.
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I did check Matthew for black and blue marks... but at the time there were none. He was in lots of pain but did not sustain any serious injuries.

"Mr. Smith" does not have any problems with his feet. Only his brain apparently.
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thats nuts, i would definitely do something about, at LEAST tell child services or something, because if he would do that to YOUR son, imagine what he would do to HIS kids

i agree that you showed a TON of restraint, i can probably say that i might be in prison if that happened to any child of mine

have you talked to MRS. Smith at all? i would go see what she thinks and ask if hes ever done that to his kids. personally i think its okay discipline you kids, but something like this is just over the limit of what is right or wrong, especially since it wasnt his kid
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:50 AM   #14
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First, is your child injured? If there'* any visible injury you should take him in to teh ER and get checked. At that point you can tell the Dr. what happened, and let them handle it. That way you didn't press the charges.
Yeah good way to have a visit paid by CPS.... this Issue needs to be reported to the police.. NO QUESTIONS asked.
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I agree. He had ABSOLUTELY no right, anyplace, anywhere, anytime to do that to your child. I would suggest pressing charges for hurting your son. Were there any other witnesses to back you up on this? If so, gather them up and speak with them about it. This needs to be taken care of. Yes, he is a friend, but IMO, he would no longer be my friend after that, in fact, if I were you, I would have confronted him, kicked his ***, and ended up in jail. I HATE seeing children being hurt by people, especially people that have NO right to touch them.
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OK guys listen going to talk to Mr.Smith is the wrong thing to do, This is a matter for the LAW to handle What Mr.Smith did is with no question Child Abuse. And if this man is willing to go this far in a Church what is going on in his own home behind closed doors?

Stop telling Tim to go see Mr.Smith this is not the right thing to do.

Tim call the Police then your Pastor.
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Police, now. Press charges.

The furthest anyone ever gets to go with someone else'* kid is to march him to his parents by his arm, and they better not leave marks.

Your kid is 5. The words "Do you want to take me on" from a grown up is completely unacceptable, and shows a bend in the guy'* thinking that needs to be corrected.
Hopefully he resists arrest.
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After reading this, I do agree that you should talk to the cops... also if there are any marks on your son, get them noted by the cops.. If he is still in pain take him to the doctor, and talk to your Pastor..

I still wonder what this guy does to his own kids..

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yeah, ill agree with everyone else.

part of me says "it was probably a fluke. maybe hes going through a divorce or something similarly stressful and he was having a bad day -- give him another shot to explain it. you guys were good friends and got along great before, no one changes into a psycho overnight."

but the other part, the bigger part, says that theres absolutely no excuse. showing red to a kid whos five for stomping on your foot? im sure he was still heated up and worked up when you came to visit him, and he was expecting a similarly violent response from you and thats why he got on the offensive when you came.

but showing such violence to a kid whos five may be indicative of similar violence against his own kids, it is your responsibility to those kids (who i can only assume you love like your own) to make sure it gets looked into. if you report it and it gets looked into, what could happen?

if the worst is true, then you helped save the kids from an abusive household. youve lost a friend, but the kids are safer.

if its not true, then you lose a friend and waste a bit of time for CPS.

the real question is: are the kids worth the gamble?
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ooohhhhhhhhh

Yeah, I would have reacted just a TAD differently.... can you say severe beat down?!!!


I would see the police now though He was way of his rocker saying something like that to a little boy
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