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Old 03-16-2008, 10:49 PM
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Some gas tips my wife found!


Tips on pumping gas:

My line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are
some tricks to get more of your money'* worth for every gallon…

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA. We deliver
about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is
diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades.
We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground
temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their
storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the
gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon
or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum
business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel
and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important
role.

A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the
service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast
mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low,
middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby
minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at
the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some
other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being
sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less
worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF
FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your
tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster
than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating
roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the
atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.

Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is
temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up — most likely the gasoline
is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up
some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help
you get the most value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON:

Gas rationing in the 80'* worked even though we grumbled about it. It might
even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should
return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the
coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import
their oil from the Saudis. I thought it might be
interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas
from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels

Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels

Exxon/Mobil...... ......... 130,082,000 barrels

Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels

Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels

CITGO is based in Venezuela. The Venezuelan Government is helping low income Americans heat their homes by providing cheap heating oil through local non profit organizations. If you have CITGO in your area, but CITGO.

Here are so me large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco..................0 barrels

Conoco..................0 barrels

Sinclair..................0 barrels

BP/Phillips.............0 barrels

Hess......................0 barrels

ARC0.....................0 barrels

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each
is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importing. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of
gas buyers. It'* really simple to do.
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Never thought about the temperature difference or the evap rate. I'm not an expert but I don't see it making a HUGE difference in what your paying but I'm sure it can factor in. Definitely an interesting read.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp
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My wife and I talked about this the other week. I said it'* all a load. Sounds good, but just a big load. I get my gas from BP because I choose to.
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BP or Raceway for me. Raceway I seemed to have gotten better mpgs from their fuel last summer...and they are the cheapest price around my grandparent'* place that I know of, they are usually 20cents cheaper than by my house, where I get BP because i chose to as well

Currently 3.08 at Raceway, it was 3.29 at the nearest gas stop by my house.
And I know some of you got it worse
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BP or Raceway for me. Raceway I seemed to have gotten better mpgs from their fuel last summer...and they are the cheapest price around my grandparent'* place that I know of, they are usually 20cents cheaper than by my house, where I get BP because i chose to as well

Currently 3.08 at Raceway, it was 3.29 at the nearest gas stop by my house.
And I know some of you got it worse
I'm 3.46 for ultimate. Better the disel, that'* at $4.20
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Originally Posted by 93-SSE
BP or Raceway for me. Raceway I seemed to have gotten better mpgs from their fuel last summer...and they are the cheapest price around my grandparent'* place that I know of, they are usually 20cents cheaper than by my house, where I get BP because i chose to as well

Currently 3.08 at Raceway, it was 3.29 at the nearest gas stop by my house.
And I know some of you got it worse
The only place I got to is chevron with techron
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they talked about that on the radio here last week. i go to shell because its really the only thing around thats top tier, and i get better milage from there


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