My buddy from school who is a local LEO, loves the charger over the crown vic.

Crown vic is an OLD car. Body on frame isn't safter than new unit-body construction like the taurus, etc. The engines are junk, and trans aren't worldy nice.

Hell, the charger V6 is better in almost every way than the Vic...

This is somewhat old news. Word has been out for about a year or so now.

Actually, no, you're wrong. The engine is one of Ford'* best engines. Ever. The 4.6 is a true work horse. It'* not uncommon for civilians and police cars to get well over 300,000 miles on the original engine. My brother had a 94 Crown Vic and recently sold it in September. The car had 340,000 miles on the ORIGINAL engine and rear end. The only thing replaced was the trans at 100,000. They're extremely solid and reliable cars. There'* good reason why they are used for police cars and taxi cabs.

We owned a 2000 Grand Marquis. Not an overly nice car, but served the needs very well. My wife didn't like it because it seems that people who are 60+ are the only ones to drive them. Since they're such a very solid car (full frame, heavy, etc.) the insurance was dirt cheap - $170 every six months for FULL coverage.

Don't dis the Panther.

Finally, somebody agrees with me. 300,00 Miles though, I didn'y know they were that tough. I was looking for a retired Intercepter Crown Vic before I found my 83 Eagle.

I know several people who own Crown Victorias, not one of them has had an engine problem. If I hadn't found the Bonneville, I would be a proud CV owner right now.

My brother in law worked for the local Ford dealer in the parts department, and owned a CV, he says that it'* hard to find anyone who can work on the 4.6 engine because nobody ever gets to take them apart, they are so reliable.

x2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE Body on frame construction. I LOVE that they're reliable. Why does everyone always need to go so damn fast? I'd love to get one as a DD just because I know they're safe, reliable, and you can BEAT on em and they hold up to it extraordinarily well. Why is everyone always looking at the downside of things instead of the upside. Everything has its downside. Learn to look at the upside.

And hey peter...lets break this down real quick here...

you think its lame that is a Full size, body on frame, RWD, V8, 4 speed auto, **210 hp - 275 trq, 3950lbs, 0-60 in 8.32, 16.51 @ 87 mph

And your car is...

Mid-full size, unibody, FWD, V6, 4 speed auto, 200 hp - 225 trq, 3500lbs, 0-60 in 9.14, 17.01 @ 84 mph...

(**1998 CV LX Example specs used)

And....yet...you...think thats lame? Uhh... well. Its faster than your car! It may not handle as well...but its faster! And the LX in the 2007 model year came with an optional 239 hp - 279 trq 4.6 to move a 3900 lb car... Sounds like the same specs as an 00+ SSEi does it not?

Not really, I told him online that those numbers he got were incredibly false...

Before my tranny went bad, I recorded a 0-60 time around 8.3 seconds.
Oh, and did I mention that I still get 35 mpg highway?

(and let'* not talk about your invisible Avalanche )

I did like the Crown Vics/Grand Marquis. Full size RWD V8 Goodness.

Hey...petey...lets see if you can beat the 239 hp 279 trq 3900lb crown vic! Lets see you say ooh well ummm...yeah.. SURE

and my avalanche IS not invisible..its a little hard to hide 3 tons of steel.

THIS invisible avalanche?

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Yep...you can see right through it for sure!