as far as i know, fram is the only one that has ever been known to fail, dont quote me on that tho..

just thought id add that.

Well, they are...and they sell a LOT of filters.

There'* always some debate about this, but my opinion is that they're crap. Cardboard end-caps aside, they use less filter media than ANYONE and their anti-drain back valves are often pointed out for being of poor quality and letting dirty oil back into the engine.

At the end of the day, on a forum such as this where people try to claim as much performance as possible through such minutiae as thermostats, air filters, synthetic oils, etc., I find it absurd that anyone could look at anything as vital to the engine as the oil filter and say "it'* good enough" when there are better options out there, sometimes for less money.

Bold statement.

False.

ive been using fram on my cars for years with no problems

You can't get beer at a 7-11 over here.

So according to that logic, YOU'RE SAFE!

i should re phrase myself and say that they have been known to fail but im sure they arent the only ones

i guess you could say im a hippocrit since i am currently running a fram filter on my car, but only since i was too lazy to go anywhere else since walmart only had fram

Fram used to be high quality, now they are high production. Kind of like the minimum filter you need. It will work as long as you change your oil and filter every 3K miles and dont do a lot dirty-condition or harsh driving. I don't think Frams are that much cheaper (if at all) than an ACDelco; so why not get the higher quality ACDelco?