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Old 05-28-2007, 12:04 AM   #1
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so im debating if i wanna sell my truck and buy a car, or keep the truck and buy a bike...
the bike in question.......

a 1996 Honda CBR600F3

Yellow/Purple/White

rubber in decent shape, 16,000 miles, never dumped or layed down..

comes with:

purple motorcycle neon kit

3 helmets, a jacket, and a spare swingarm

i dont know if theres any exhaust mods or not....


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askin 3600 for it...
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3600 seems a little high for an 11 year old bike like that in most areas... Depends on condition...

Is this your first bike? Not a bad first bike, nothing too crazy...
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3600 seems a little high for an 11 year old bike like that in most areas... Depends on condition...

Is this your first bike? Not a bad first bike, nothing too crazy...
yep first bike... this bike is MINT... not a single scratch/dent on it im just kinda leary about insurance idk how they will react to it.....
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the pipe looks to be aftermarket the pic isnt the best, but 3600 is a bit much though the bike is in good condition i would offer him 32-34 to start out and work your way up...a 600 is definatly a good starter bike and it looks pretty well maintained ide give it a good inspection though to see if anything looks cobbed on it...you dont want a half a$$ed 11 year old bike specially when some parts are hard to come by
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3600 for an F3...A tad high, but not unreasonable. Looking at the photo, the owner (or previous owner) did a bunch of mods to it: What I can see:

1.) Rear fender has been chopped and the license plate moved (make sure there is a license plate light..that'* ticket material)
2.) Front and rear turn signals are not original.
3.) exhaust is a aftermarket (From the photo it just looks to be a slip-on..which is just a cosmetic change, better if it is a full system..check the headers for chrome plating, you can also look at the collector..underneath, just ahead of the swingarm..a factory one is made of pressed steel welded together, an aftermarket one is made from tube steel.)
4.) Front forks have been worked on. From the factory, the Showa fork sliders are black. These are silver so somebody was playing. This could be good, if the seals were replaced.

Ok, things to check for. First, check the axle nuts, oil fill plug, and brake line banjo bolts for holes drilled through them (Safety wire ties)...if there, drop the price as the motorcycle was somebody'* track bike.

Second, take a carefull look at the front forks. You are looking for anything oozing past the rubber seals at the top of the sliders, and any pits or deformations in the fork tubes.

Next, look at the back of the cylinders on the right side of the bike (just where the access panel is). There'* a cam chain tensioner there that is normally hydraulic. If you see a bolt and a locking nut there, then someone replaced it with a mechanical tensioner.

Look at all the panel lines in the lowers and the fitment of the upper faring. The tube steel cage that supports the upper fairing also serves at the mounting points for the headlight, instrument panel, and mirrors. It bends very easily and damage shows up in the fitment of the panels to each other. (In other words, if the bike got dropped in it'* life and the cage got bent, it is very hard to bend it back into shape and it will show)

Last, look at the drive chain and sprockets. You can learn a lot from the chain. It should be fairly clean and lubricated. It should also have a master link in it. The original chain was a linkless RK. With as many miles as this bike has, the original chain SHOULD NOT be still on the bike. The sprocket teeth should be nice and uniform, without any sign of the teeth being hooked. That will give you a sense of how well the bike was maintained.

Last, let him start the bike up and ride it down the street while you watch and listed. It should start smooth with a little choke and idle smooth at about 1000rpm. The exhaust note should be nice and mellow, not raspy with popping in it (which is what would happen with an aftermarket exhaust and no jet changes..the bike would be over lean in the mixture.) These bikes run like sewing machines when they are well maintained.

About the CBR600 in general. These are outstanding motorcycles. Over the years I have owned 9 of them. (From '87 Hurricanes to the F2/F3 ) The engines are very durable, the steel chassis is solid. The bike puts out 90hp, has very stable and forgiving steering, with no tendancies to nose under in a turn. It has no bad habits. If it about to do something nasty, it will tell you well in advance...if you recognize what is happening. For example, under hard braking the rake and trail are mild enough that the bike will snake and shudder the front end before the front wheel locks and the bike pitches you off...that'* conservative Honda engineering. Some bikes will just shudder once, steering will snap to one side and pitch you off when you exceed the braking limits. I'll go with what the journalists said about the bike when it was introduced.."Anything this Bitchin can't be legal!

I Do Not recommend any of the middleweight sport bikes as "beginner" motorcycles. They can run down most of the liter bikes and get a new rider way in over their heads before they know they are in trouble. Hence, the average life expectancy of a middleweight sportbike is around 1200 miles before the first serious crash.
Just to give you a point of reference to my advice... I've been riding since 1985. In the early 1990'* I raced in AMA/CCS roadracing. (On a 89 CBR600, later on a 92 F2, and again in WERA Vintage on a 1987 VFR700)
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to expensive... i would say about 2500$, great starter bike 4 sure ... the 600 is fun but after a yr or so you will want a 750 if not a 1000.... the hondas do run forever.. but my self i dont like them... ive always owned suzuki and KTM bikes... but i would love to find one of them joe camel replica bikes one day... but anyways.. keep looking.. ebay, cragslist, local paper... you will find something cheaper..
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