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Old 01-24-2006, 01:03 PM   #11
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Haha, you cuh-rraaaaaazy canooks.
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i hate politics
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Agreed. But I guess I feel like I must be informed/involved in them stateside. I take voting seriously. But as far as whats going on in Canada, I have no freaking clue what'* going on.
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Old 01-24-2006, 06:27 PM   #14
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Ya its not a good day, but either way there all crooks, this change may not but good but im sure there will be another election in the months to come.
There won't be an election for another couple years, all thanks to Mr. Martin'* speech last night. In resigning as the leader of the Liberal Party, he has essentially handed Mr. Harper control of the House for about 2 years (maybe a year and a half at the very least). The Liberal party must now go through the process of appointing an interim leader, and then the lengthy (and expensive, the Liberal coffers are severely depleted) process of electing a new leader. Furthermore, with so many party members vying for leadership of the party, the Liberals will take even longer to come together.

So, what does this mean? Basically that the Liberal party will remain much too divided and distracted for too long to properly opppose the Tories. So, as such, we will see a Conservative minority for some time. What will happen in 2 years or so, when the Liberals are united under a strong leader? Only time can tell really, although I would certainly hope to see them form the government again (only since the NDP won't be forming a government anytime soon).

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Then don't post in this thread and get lost; this thread is about politics, regardless of your personal disdain.
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Old 01-24-2006, 07:19 PM   #15
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Then don't post in this thread and get lost; this thread is about politics, regardless of your personal disdain.
Ryan! Watch your step there.....Everyone is entitled to their opinions and zepployd had every right to say that they hated politics, as you said this thread is about politics! Whether you agree or not you have no right to tell someone to get lost.....

As for the election, I am sorry to see Paul Martin go, he is a good man, however, I could not vote for his party. I am happy that the conservative from our riding got in, we may actually have a voice now! I will however say that Stephen Harper does worry me a bit, but at least it is minority government and he has to watch his step.
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personaly i liked the way it was with the Liberals in a minority postion. the only this wrong with the liberals is they got too much power and got out of line, I dont think anything happend when the were a minority (maybe there was, I dont follow it too close) all i can say is hopfully Harper wont go against are Canadian values
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Old 01-24-2006, 08:45 PM   #17
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The White House called to congratulate Mr Harper on his victory and looks forward to co-operation with our newly elected Conservative goverment.

This should be interesting...lol

Did you see the riding maps? Greater Toronto Area, Vancouver and Montreal...ALL ridings went Liberal, as rural Canada voted a Conservative minority. Exactly the same as the United States, proving we are just as divided between urban and rural citizens. However due to the fact that Canadian urban centres continue to grow, this ensures the Grits will rebound quickly.

This will be a good time out for our Liberal party to refocus, clean house. Lets give Harper the benefit of the doubt. Canadians by nature are more Liberal fundamentally and will not accept neo conservative actions from Harper.

Plus our economic engines (cities) better get properly addressed by this rural-voted government.
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Wow, sounds like Canada is in for a surprise. Well, I have to say that IMO, USA is worse. Our candiatates backstab each others. One Democrat vehemently denied everything. One Republican had no clue what he was talking about.

Our President spys on us. They keep secrets from us.

Ahh, ain't politics wonderful
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i hate politics
Then don't post in this thread and get lost; this thread is about politics, regardless of your personal disdain.
Ryan! Watch your step there.....Everyone is entitled to their opinions and zepployd had every right to say that they hated politics, as you said this thread is about politics! Whether you agree or not you have no right to tell someone to get lost.....

As for the election, I am sorry to see Paul Martin go, he is a good man, however, I could not vote for his party. I am happy that the conservative from our riding got in, we may actually have a voice now! I will however say that Stephen Harper does worry me a bit, but at least it is minority government and he has to watch his step.
Well, perhaps I was a bit harsh in telling him to get lost, but I still maintain that his post was unecessarily negative and ill-placed. If he had posted in a thread like this one: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=47066 , and said "I hate SEs" or "why would you upgrade one?" EVERYONE would be all over him. I mean, the thread is about SEs, so is his point valid there too? Or this thread: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=47148 , and if he said "I hate your rims" or "I hate your car" he would get reamed. But, again, the thread IS about fuel'* rims and car, so is his point vaild there?

However, if he posted "I personally do not care for SEs, I prefer SSEis" that would be fine although he might catch some flak for not posting something relevant. Or "I'm not a big fan of your rims, but it'* your car" would be fine too, with a similar caveat as above. Similarly, if he had said "I don't follow or enjoy politics, but good for Canada" or something along those lines, then it would be perfectly acceptable, although not overly relevant. Furthermore, this thread isn't "Post your opinion on politics" it was specifically oriented towards comments on the election in Canada. It'* all about the delivery and the context, isn't it?

Now, back to CANADIAN politics.

I hope that Harper doesn't become Bush'* best buddy, but I rest assured that the minority in the House should keep that in check for the most part. He really can't afford to do introduce anything radical this early on.

As far as any "neo-Conservative" agenda, I think Canada is safe and really conservative westerners (I, of course, am not included in that group despite my geographical location) may be very disappointed with him in the months to come. He will not attempt to challenge same-sex marriage or criminalise abortion for a very long time, if at all.
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Ohh, Ryan'* good. I do have to agree with him. He does make a valid point.

The other guy could have put it more delicately like Ryan pointed out several times.

Ryan has supported his reasons why he reacted in such ways, you really should run for a elected office.

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