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Old 11-21-2010, 02:44 AM   #21
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the exposure of 1 scan is the same as about 6 mins of flying @ 30,000 feet. or, if u wish. it takes 3300 body scans to expose you to the same radiation as 1 chest xray. its not a issue. dont believe the fear mongers. these are the same ones screaming we need to make it safer.
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Old 11-21-2010, 04:16 AM   #22
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Ill take a little radiation over having my plane blown up or hijacked. I would think these would speed the process up a bit as well.
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Dan, you should go through the airport just as your pic in your avatar, big hammer and all. That'd be great.
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The amount of radiation that body scanner supposedly put'* out is supposedly less than background radiation we encounter daily, medical procedures, etc. My issue with them is that they still do not know the long term affects for this type of highly concentrated millimeter x-ray beam - in conjunction with all the other bombardments we face daily.

There have been studies and mathematical models done that indicate that these devices are not as safe as lead to believe. Couple of good resources are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millimeter_wave_scanner and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_body_scanner

I'm all for safety measures that improve our safety in our lives as long as it'* not intrusive and my rights under the fourth amendment are not compromised:

...... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

In my opinion...the scanners and pat downs are unreasonable. But...that'* just my opinion and I'm sure will face legal challenges in the years to come.
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The amount of radiation that body scanner supposedly put'* out is supposedly less than background radiation we encounter daily, medical procedures, etc. My issue with them is that they still do not know the long term affects for this type of highly concentrated millimeter x-ray beam - in conjunction with all the other bombardments we face daily.

There have been studies and mathematical models done that indicate that these devices are not as safe as lead to believe. Couple of good resources are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millimeter_wave_scanner and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_body_scanner

I'm all for safety measures that improve our safety in our lives as long as it'* not intrusive and my rights under the sixth amendment are not compromised:

Article the sixth ...... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

In my opinion...the scanners and pat downs are unreasonable. But...that'* just my opinion and I'm sure will face legal challenges in the years to come.
You meant the Fourth amendment, but it'* ok. I don't know how the TSA could violate your right to a speedy trial.
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You meant the Fourth amendment, but it'* ok. I don't know how the TSA could violate your right to a speedy trial.
Yep...I meant to type fourth, saw sixth and the rest was history.
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Do not like the idea or the assumptions that my safety requires me to be subjected to all this BS. And in violating my rights as they were before the 9-11 incident/TSA formation. Security by this Agency is pathetic and comes at a cost that is crippling. Both in Dollars and privacy/rights. And all along the way the TSA is lobbying to further reduce our rights and subject us to whatever they feel makes their job easier (not necessarily better)

We have allowed ourselves to be scared into allowing the Government to be able to do what it wants with us. Invade our homes, arrest without warrants, seize property, hold people without notice. due process, or time limits. And the new government privileges are only being further amended and heightened to the point we are now an autocratic nation and democracy is just a word.

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