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Krazy Kyle 02-12-2005 10:42 PM

'91 Park Avenue with 68k miles - Opinions?
 
Okay, there's a '91 Buick Park Avenue in the Auto Trader with only 68k miles on it for $2300. Now, I have a couple reservations already, despite the very low miles. In fact, that's part of it. I've heard that very low mileage per year can be just as bad as lots of miles per year. What do you guys think? Also, do the '91 Park Avenues have the 3800 with the burnt valve problems, or the version of the 3800 that came before that, the one in the '87-'91 vintage Bonnies, the one I'm assuming doesn't have that problem? Can anybody help me out here? I know it was the first year for that particular revision of the Park Avenue, and it's not a '92, which would definitely have the EGR-less engine, so I'm just totally frigging confused. Can anybody help me out here? Oh yes, and any other opinions on the car are also greatly appreciated :) Thanks again in advance to anyone who posts :)

fantastic88 02-12-2005 11:13 PM

The 91 is the EGRless. In 92' all Ultras became supercharged. So 91' is the only NA Ultra. It along with the Olds 98 was the first car to have the series 1 (Tuned Port Injection) vs. the first gen. :wink:

Krazy Kyle 02-12-2005 11:15 PM

So... the '91 has the burnt valve problem? I don't think it's an Ultra...

Why did you mention the Ultra? Still confused...

fantastic88 02-12-2005 11:36 PM

Oops, I thought a saw Ultra in the title. Still, the Park Av is no different from the Ultra in 91'. Just to let you know shes a cruiser vs. racer. The 2.84 gearing + 3600lbs = 0-60mph in the 10 sec catigory.

Krazy Kyle 02-12-2005 11:40 PM

How much slower is that than my '93 Bonne SE with 150k on her? Same range?

Krazy Kyle 02-12-2005 11:41 PM

And the '91 Park Avenue had the problem with burnt valves, too? Damn, that's a serious thing to take into consideration if I end up wanting to buy it. Shucks...

Ryan 02-12-2005 11:58 PM

The PA would be slower I think...

I'm pretty sure the NA hp went up in '93, and the PA probably weighs more to boot. It's a touring car, I wouldn't hold your breath in a race.

fantastic88 02-13-2005 12:11 AM


How much slower is that than my '93 Bonne SE with 150k on her? Same range?
Ulnless that Bonny had the 2.84 then the PA is slower. Most Bonny's have the 3.06 gearing for better acceleration. Unless you're Bonny was absolutely stripped to the bone then you had the 3.06. The PA should deliver better mileage because it will run a lower RPM on the highway.

Krazy Kyle 02-13-2005 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by fantastic88

How much slower is that than my '93 Bonne SE with 150k on her? Same range?
Ulnless that Bonny had the 2.84 then the PA is slower. Most Bonny's have the 3.06 gearing for better acceleration. Unless you're Bonny was absolutely stripped to the bone then you had the 3.06. The PA should deliver better mileage because it will run a lower RPM on the highway.

I don't know...

My current Bonne lacks a spoiler, has a manual antenna, bench bucket seats and a column shifter. What do you think?

Krazy Kyle 02-13-2005 01:12 AM

And what about the burnt vlalves and overheating problems associated with the lack of an EGR valve? Does this PA have that EGR-less engine? Just want to get that clarified...


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