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Old 04-27-2005, 03:17 AM   #11
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I feel your pain man with the 3.1, gettin on the highway was scary sometimes with my 96 cutlass. When the 3.4 came out it was bascially one of a kind, unfortuately it was ahead of the technology; like timing chains and balanced camshafts. But i agree a properly maintained Twin DOHC can be just as reliable as the Pushrod 60 degree V6'*.

gee I was hoping I was the only one searching for an LQ1/5 speed combo
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I feel your pain man with the 3.1, gettin on the highway was scary sometimes with my 96 cutlass. When the 3.4 came out it was bascially one of a kind, unfortuately it was ahead of the technology; like timing chains and balanced camshafts. But i agree a properly maintained Twin DOHC can be just as reliable as the Pushrod 60 degree V6'*.

gee I was hoping I was the only one searching for an LQ1/5 speed combo
haha!

I'm so tired of misinformed people bashing the 3.4. It is NOT a bad engine if it'* kept up. Same goes FOR ANY OTHER ENGINE. It'* not any less reliable than any 3800 on this board. Oh god.. you have to change the timing belt every 60,000 miles?! I just can't handle that!..
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Old 04-27-2005, 06:33 AM   #13
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It is NOT a bad engine if it'* kept up. Same goes FOR ANY OTHER ENGINE
I have several ford 3.8 N/A and supercharged motors to proof that theory worng. :P
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Old 04-27-2005, 11:07 AM   #14
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I feel your pain man with the 3.1, gettin on the highway was scary sometimes with my 96 cutlass. When the 3.4 came out it was bascially one of a kind, unfortuately it was ahead of the technology; like timing chains and balanced camshafts. But i agree a properly maintained Twin DOHC can be just as reliable as the Pushrod 60 degree V6'*.

gee I was hoping I was the only one searching for an LQ1/5 speed combo
haha!

I'm so tired of misinformed people bashing the 3.4. It is NOT a bad engine if it'* kept up. Same goes FOR ANY OTHER ENGINE. It'* not any less reliable than any 3800 on this board. Oh god.. you have to change the timing belt every 60,000 miles?! I just can't handle that!..
I'm basing my opinions on the engine from my experiences. For the most part, they are expensive engines to deal with.
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IMO, don't bother with the 3100 or 3.4. Both are inferior. If you're going to get a GP, get a L36 powered one (97+). The 3100 is too small of an engine to sufficiently power a car of that size.
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I think NERV is looking moreso at practicality rather than power. Price too...
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I picked up our 2001 GP SE for $4,000. It was in her price range and she likes the look inside and out. And she'* not a race car driver. She just got sick of driving the son-in-laws project POS camero, or his pickup. she couldn't reach the pedals very well. Plus the gas mileage was horrible on both. I think she'll live with poor power rating.
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I picked up our 2001 GP SE for $4,000. It was in her price range and she likes the look inside and out. And she'* not a race car driver. She just got sick of driving the son-in-laws project POS camero, or his pickup. she couldn't reach the pedals very well. Plus the gas mileage was horrible on both. I think she'll live with poor power rating.
I'll say that the 3.4 made great power and loved to rev... But How many people really paid attention to replacing the timming belt or any noises that the Timming belt tensioner may have been making before something let go...

I do agree tho, that if the engine was taken care of it was a good reliable engine...

as for the GP with the 3100, Its not that underpowered, 3100 Vin J 170 Hp(99 & later ) and 190-195 Ft Lbs is ok for what its intended for.... I would have rather had the 3800 in it, But the 3100 will have a good long life... I have had friends that drove the 3100 GP'* 97 and later and liked them... Can't knock em...

I have driven a few 3400'* in the cars and vans and have been pretty impressed with them for being a 3400 V6... 180 Hp and 210 ft lbs is not bad

And some of the N body 3400 V6'* having ratings of 21cty and 32hwy is not bad either...

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I have driven a few 3400'* in the cars and vans and have been pretty impressed with them for being a 3400 V6... 180 Hp and 210 ft lbs is not bad

And some of the N body 3400 V6'* having ratings of 21cty and 32hwy is not bad either...
actually the 3.4 gp claims 215 horse and 215 torque
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I believe he is referring to the OHV 3400 that makes 170-185hp and 200-215 ft lbs of torque. the DOHC makes 200-215 hp depending on year.
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