those Lumina LTZ'* with the 3.8'* were awesome little sleepers. And the good availability of aftermarket parts... and a used SC 3800 series I or II will be cheaper than a 3.9 also....

i have my reasons... and i'd rather not get into the same pissing match i do whenever i join another forum... on GMWbody, my intro thread actually got split from my main thread to "**** the 3800"...

interesting effect of the law of unintended consequences.

3800'* are a dime a dozen, the swap is very worth while, But lets think out of the box, Who do you know with a 3900 monte carlo?

well, 5th Gen MCs could have them in 2006 if it was a LT, and was standard in the LTZ... but yeah, other than that, they're not very common... kinda like someone'* 95 MC with a N* in the illinois area...

also a badass car.

oops, meant 7th gen... 5th is 95-99, 7th is 06-07

no im not knocking you at all.. If u got the funds it would be very neat to see done. I applaud you..

sorry if i sounded condescending...

no, i know the facts of it. if i did most of the work, i could swap in a L67 for less than $1500... and a LZ9(3900 with the cool dual-tract intake) alone would cost me ~700 let alone the transmission that can withstand it, and the electronics to run it.... OHV VVT and variable intake systems are interesting to study.

but it'* been done to death... like a S10 with a SBC, or a truck with a 10" lift: everyone has already been there and done that.

still dont see how l67 swap cost so much,

Buy wrecked l67 car (500$)

Put your time into it (free)

l67 95 Grand prix Done! LOL 500)$

that'* why i said "most" anthony...