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Old 10-26-2006, 09:23 AM   #1
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Okay so I have been putting some oney into the Bonnie lately (and not for mods) and its getting a little old and it still needs more work.
So far I have done
  • new fuel pump, new fuel lines, new gas tank, new water pump, new plugs and wires, 1 new coil
Despite all of this she is still stalling on me.
I have determined that it is either a new crank sensor or EGR valve. (based on computer codes) or probably a bad UIM as I am losing coolant into the motor.
Or it may be all three of those.
Not to mention it has some rust spots in need of repair ( nothing too major) and maybe a new wheel as the last two tires on it keep leaking air slowly. Also something is wrong with the power steering, the air isn't cold and the drivers side rear window doesn't work.
So, do I fix her or do I take a chance at another used vehicle ( new is not in the budget) and hope it has no problems?
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honestly? with all the money you have put into it, wouldn't it be a bit wasteful to give up on the car?

I never understood why people want to get rid of a car because they put money into it... I would get rid of the car BEFORE the money went in, because otherwise its just throwing it all away
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honestly? with all the money you have put into it, wouldn't it be a bit wasteful to give up on the car?

I never understood why people want to get rid of a car because they put money into it... I would get rid of the car BEFORE the money went in, because otherwise its just throwing it all away
Toast, you never know how much money its gonna take before you start. If he could go back in time he might have done things differently, but that'* not really an option, is it?

bump, with regards to the stalling i would replace the crank sensor first since it is just a $20-30 part. If you can fix the stalling it would be much more sellable if that is in fact what you want to do with it.

Use soap and water to try and find out where the tires are leaking. You could get lucky and find it to be a valve stem. I don't recommend fix-a-flat tire sealer but it is a cheap fix and it does work. The window motor you could get out of a junkyard or from boosty.
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Yeah, I kinda agree about wasting money now by giving up. But, I didn't know it would cost so much in the long run.
Also, the car does also have a new alternator (2 yrs ago), new battery, and about 40,ooo miles on a rebuilt tranny.
As far as parts, I know most I can get cheap, but I don't have the tools and experience do do most of the work. I do have help and access to some stuff with little or no cost, such as rust repair thanks to father-in-law.
But crank sensor is a no go as far as labor. I still think I need the UIM as I said due to the coolant loss.
But I am leaning towrads repairs due to what I already have into it.
Ofcourse, I love her too. And, what else can go wrong? Once I get these issues fixed I mean.
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This is, indeed, a timeless question and one that only you can answer. Some things you need to consider:

If you're thinking about replacing this car, what can you afford to replace it with? I just put about 200 Frostys ($200) into my 93, but that'* a lot less than a car payment. And car payments come once a month, whether you want them to or not.

With this car, you have a known quantity. In buying another car, you have no idea what it'* been through (unless you buy from family, etc.). And buying a NEW car isn't a sure bet you won't have problems either.

What'* it going to cost you in time and stress, as well money, to keep this car? A car that is not dependable may not be worth the effort required to keep it going. A drain on your bank account is only one factor of the equation, what'* it doing to your stress level?

If you're going to keep a "fixer upper", it'* really beneficial to have the place, the time, and the skills to keep it going. If you're into that sort of thing, the skills come with experience, and you get the experience just by doing. Your current situation will dictate whether or not this is in the cards for you.

These are but a few considerations you need to ponder. Ya gathers yer facts, throws in some emotion, then makes yer choice!
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We pulled Sandrocks motor down to block with pistons and crank. Along the way we pulled the Harmonic balancer and the sensor. Crank sensor is easy.. go for it..
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IMO, the time to call it quits is when you can't even stand to look at the car and you don't even like it.

Plus the car gets old, parts WILL fail so I just look at that as maintaince so it will last longer, that'* all.

I should warn you to be reasonable, please don't pump tons of money in it, if you think you won't get the cost of parts back from selling it, that'* also when I would sell it.
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Hey tallbump, have you tried rotating the tires for that leak? Sounds stupid, but that happened with my wife'* Sunbird that she had a few years ago. I think one or both of the tires either in front or back, can't remember, had slow leaks. I had the tires rotated after a while because it was time, and after they were rotated, the tires stopped leaking. It was the craziest thing.
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Hey tallbump, have you tried rotating the tires for that leak? Sounds stupid, but that happened with my wife'* Sunbird that she had a few years ago. I think one or both of the tires either in front or back, can't remember, had slow leaks. I had the tires rotated after a while because it was time, and after they were rotated, the tires stopped leaking. It was the craziest thing.
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This is, indeed, a timeless question and one that only you can answer. Some things you need to consider:

If you're thinking about replacing this car, what can you afford to replace it with? I just put about 200 Frostys ($200) into my 93, but that'* a lot less than a car payment. And car payments come once a month, whether you want them to or not.



Right now I could afford payments on something I would be happy with, but as the wife and I are looking to buy a home in a few months, we are trying to save money. But reliable transportation is crucial as my job will be about a 20 mile drive from where we are looking to move to.
Also, like you say, you never know what you get when buying used (or new) atleast I know what I have. I am not too stressed yet (my wife is getting there) I am thinking its almost like having a new car.
I am willing to "do the work" but don't have much access to the tools and an experienced mentor. My father-in-law has the know how, but is getting to old to feel like doing the work.
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Update from Florida meet

We pulled Sandrocks motor down to block with pistons and crank. Along the way we pulled the Harmonic balancer and the sensor. Crank sensor is easy.. go for it..
I am certainly up for doing the crank sensor, but as I said I don't know what I am doing and I don't have the tools. I would actually love to do it though. I want to learn.
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IMO, the time to call it quits is when you can't even stand to look at the car and you don't even like it.
I am definitely not to that point yet. Actually this is my favorite car I have ever owned. I don't know how much more my wife can take though. You bring up a good point though.
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Hey tallbump, have you tried rotating the tires for that leak? Sounds stupid, but that happened with my wife'* Sunbird that she had a few years ago. I think one or both of the tires either in front or back, can't remember, had slow leaks. I had the tires rotated after a while because it was time, and after they were rotated, the tires stopped leaking. It was the craziest thing.
Never heard of that. I am getting a third tire mounted on that same wheel though, so I will certainly have them check it out. There may be just debris or something causing the leak. I guess they'll probably rotate them as well since the other three tires are about a year old. Same kind of tire though.
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