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Old 10-26-2006, 08:57 PM   #11
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IMO, the time to call it quits is when you can't even stand to look at the car and you don't even like it.
Dude, that'* like any time I go to work on my car, lol.

You have to think also though about how much money is in the car, and whether you could get that money back out of it.
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:10 PM   #12
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Call it quits and just give it to me
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:25 PM   #13
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the way I see it depends on how much is in it and how much it needs...so far it seems like you got quite a bit in it now, so after these next few problems are repaird and whatnnot, maybe you'll be able to go mod happy for then next few years before anything goes bad again
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if nothing else, I say do up that UIM ASAP. Not too bad a fix and relatively inexpensive considering the alternative (eventual dead motor). We did the fix at home, you'll be into it ~225-250 in parts (used the Dorman kit).

I too have a leaking tire, needs to be refilled once a week- thank God for the on-board compressor. Won't be a problem once I get snow tires for this pig

Other than that, you gotta sit down and be totally honest with yourself as to whether you want to hang onto it or explore alternatives.
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Old 10-27-2006, 06:01 PM   #15
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Man, that is really sounding nasty! Is it just me or do L36s just have like...ALOT of problems...?

I would say do what you can, but if you don't wanna deal with it anymore, then just sell it and get something else! It is so weird though...I have never really heard of a car having this many problems all at one time..unless the car is neglected that is...

And anyone saying that old age will kill a car, I think that if you properly maintain ANY car it will last well into its 20s...the body tho...well thats another story... I maintain mine as well as I can, shes turnin 18 soon and still runnin like a champ...I think its a matter of miles and preventitive maintinance.

But yes...I will admit, there is a time when you have to let a car go, as much as you like it. I know there is going to be some time soon when I will have to do that with mine...and it really bothers me every time I am reminded of it.

About that tire tho...I would have them check for any debris on the rim...and then rebalance it...one of my original tires was doing that and so I told the place to CLEAN THE EDGES before remounting the new tire...no leaks since! Otherwise, examine the tire VERY closely for any nails or anything...I had a nail once in such a weird place in the tread that it took me about 15 mins to notice it.

Good Luck!
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:12 PM   #16
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I discovered that my time to throw in the towel is when the cost to bring a car up to good reliable proper running condition is the price of a good down-payment, provided I can also afford a reasonable car payment. This was the criteria used to call it quits on my wife'* 88 Grand Prix. It needed about $3000 worth of work to really be right, and I figured that would be better spent as a down payment. Ultimately I put $5000 down on a 2001 Grand Prix GT for her, with $200 car payments. I sold the 88 GP to a friend who needed a reliable car. He decided what things to fix and what things to let go.

You have a 95SE, and you're having problems including a possible UIM failure. You might do better to buy a 97-2005 SE in good running condition, and sell the 95, or keep it as a beater to work on when you have time, and sell it when you get the major problems worked out.

There DOES come a point where troubleshooting problems like this is more trouble than it'* worth. Since you don't know the causes of a lot of your problems, you might consider just spending some money to have a Pontiac dealer with a good service department do your diagnosis for you. (Be clear you just want to know what the problem is.) They generally have a lot of experience and can isolate the problems quickly. I've had some pretty weird symptoms caused by things like a bad vacuum hose or a bad sensor, that my dealer isolated quickly. Otherwise I could have gone on for months trying different possible solutions. Alternatively, if you live near some of the gearheads, buy some beer and invite them over. I'd do that, but there'* not many club members in the Bay area in California!
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My Advice:
Keep it until you fix it, but keep it sitting until you get it fixxed, and get a junker Honda or something for the time being.
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Keep it until you fix it, but keep it sitting until you get it fixxed, and get a junker Honda or something for the time being.
Buy a Honda?!? Thats just going from bad to worse. At the least get a Ford.
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Keep it until you fix it, but keep it sitting until you get it fixxed, and get a junker Honda or something for the time being.
Buy a Honda?!? Thats just going from bad to worse. At the least get a Ford.
Hondas are 2000x more reliable than Fords. nooo
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Well, I would agree that Hondas are more reliable than Fords. However, right now a second vehicle isn't a concern as I do have access to a 90 Dodge Ram that I get around in. Only becomes a problem when I have my other daughter with us. (Me + wife + 2 kids in a 3 seater = )
So I think the plan is what all most seem to be suggesting. I am going to take it to a garage and try to get the main problem diagnosed. (Probably the UIM) Since I don't have the skill to fix myself, I'll probably have that taken care of. I know a few garages that will give me a fair price.
I am hoping the air leak problem is just the debris on the wheel, will have that checked as well when I get the new tire mounted. If I need a new wheel so be it, hopefully find one in a junk yard. ( 2 of mine ar epretty ugly anyway)
Hoping to not have to do the crank sensor or EGR valve, but I will if it needs done. Again, I don't think I can do the crank sensor, but I can do the EGR valve.
As far as the air and the rear window, I am not to worried about those, maybe deal with that when summer comes.
I am at the point right now where a car payment is possible, but not desired. I have access to about $1,000, so I hope that is not enough to get her back in good running order, can worry about the smal stuff later.
But, if anyone wants to make a road trip and has some tools and experience, I'll be happy to buy the beer. Don;t really have the room to put anyone up, but there are some cheap, decent hotels in the area.
I'll keep everyone posted.
One good note is that I just started a new job Firday so money will be a little easier to come by.
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