i completely understand what you are sayin pete, and Danthur, i mean no offense. but i DO have many bad stories as well as bad personal experiances with morse. I like the rotors, but to ensure a longer life, and much less dust on your rims, i would strongly suggest going with a different set of pads.

and braking isn't ALL about just friction. it is also about transfer of energy. and in this case it is heat. so if the rotors can better dissipate heat, thats a sacrifice of less friction.. and it does look bada$$ behind those rims too.

Had you told me this before I put them on the car I woudl have exchanged them. But there on the car now, so I will have to see what happens. Thanks anyways.

had i known, i would have.

if you bought those locally, they may let you exchange them and just pay the difference. id just hate to see you mess up those nice new rotors.

Those new rotors were in the same boat. Had I known, I would have told him.

I know the view of some folks here about drilled/slotted rotors, so I won't debate that. But I have used Raybestos Super Stop rotors for years on my 98 and just over a year on my 02, they are slotted and drilled. I use Akebono pads, no dusting and they are wearing like iron, quiet and they just work great.

I'm guilty of it myself, and we get into an area where you can have two scenarios, totally dependent on whether the topic author asked for help selecting components or not.

(And this isn't a slam on Danthurs at all, although this is an example).

I strongly believe that Danthurs would have selected different rotors and possibly even different pads if he'd posted it before he bought them. But every member here has an experience and knowledge level different than anyone else. He may have been steered to these components elsewhere, or by his own good experiences on another vehicle, and maybe felt no need to ask advice here.

This is a good example (sorry, but many thanks at the same time to Danthurs) of why it'* a good idea to ask first and gather some collective experience that relates, then go purchase after making your own informed decision based on all inputs.

Are his brakes going to blow up on him? Probably not, but he'* not going to have much luck getting them turned, and his brake performance might not be up to what he COULD have had. Improved or worse? Hard to say. Depends on how bad it was before.

We can all probably improve on the way we make 'constructively critical' replies. In the long run, our goal is for each member to get the best of what they can, even if we word it in a negative manner.

So far I haven't had any issue getting the ones I have on my truck turned. I've had two different shops turn them for me (fronts/rears). I guess it depends on where you go. I usually use a garage near my house when ever I need to have rotors turned.

As far as improvement, like I said above, they have or seem to have helped my 95 but not the truck. It didn't seem to be any better until I swapped the pads to ceramics. So I would have to say the rotors didn't it help any but they sure do look good

And once again, I have to reiterate my position here...drilled rotors are not inherently evil. Buy a good brand, make sure the holes are cast in, and you should have no problems.

The main thing is the type of driving you do. If you do a lot of stop and go, then drilled are wonderful. I delivered pizza with my 95 SSEi with PowerStop drilled rotors, and trust me, if I'd had blanks, I would have faded them to useless every run.

Just get used to the idea that you may only get two sets of pads before you have to buy new rotors.

Brian, what you said "make sure the holes are cast in" just wiped out 95% of the 'drilled' rotors on the market.

But it still takes away from braking surface area, even though it solves the micro-cracking issue. When going 'cast in', you need to increase the braking area to make up for the loss by increasing the diamter of the rotor.

But I already threw this at Danthurs in another topic. He'* got what he'* got now. I'm passionate about people getting the right stuff, especially with regards to brakes, but it'* a little late now.

The important thing is that our intentions are honorable.

Just to clear it up, my brakes are WAY better now. The car don't shake, and they dont fade like the ones I had on. Infact I was suprised at how fast I stopped. They may not be the *perfect* setup, but it'* better then what I had. They are on the car, and there they shell stay. If they fail, then I will change them, otherwise it'* just throwing away money.