General GM Chat When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made. Chat about all things GM (and related cars). Off-topic stuff should be in the Lounge, and all Model specific mechanical problems should be posted in the proper forum.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

To those of you who want a bra...NEVER WASTE YOUR MONEY!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-16-2003, 08:02 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
macho_mike21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Bloomington-Normal, IL 1997 SE
Posts: 3,734
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
macho_mike21 is on a distinguished road
Default

if it turns out that the dealer did it on purpose, i does give a new angle to the name "Crime of the Century"...
Old 06-16-2003, 08:06 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
Posts like a Corvette
Thread Starter
 
Tamara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Ontario
Posts: 1,253
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Tamara is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by macho_mike21
if it turns out that the dealer did it on purpose, i does give a new angle to the name "Crime of the Century"...
i'm afraid i lack your sense of humor.

He'* a really nice guy, I don't think he did it on purpose, and when i looked at it, THE FADING WAS NOT THERE. Something between that week has happened to make it do this. I DID NOT BUY THE CAR in that condition, i am sure of it.
Old 06-17-2003, 12:01 AM
  #23  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Drifter420's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bedroom, Ontario
Posts: 3,266
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Drifter420 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SANDBLASTING

Originally Posted by BUBBA
] WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT TRY SANDBLASTING THE HOOD TO GET THE PAINT OFF !! YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY WARP IT. SAND THE PAINT DOWN ONLY. [/b]
I meant it not as takin the paint off.. I meant it as sanding the paint so the new paint coat will adhere to it hell I'm too lazy to sand it all the way down to bare metal when I don't have to. You think that would be fine for that? Or do I have to bring out the elbow grease :(
Old 06-17-2003, 12:32 AM
  #24  
Senior Member
Posts like a Corvette
 
Hailey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hailey is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by Tamara
Originally Posted by macho_mike21
if it turns out that the dealer did it on purpose, i does give a new angle to the name "Crime of the Century"...
i'm afraid i lack your sense of humor.

He'* a really nice guy, I don't think he did it on purpose, and when i looked at it, THE FADING WAS NOT THERE. Something between that week has happened to make it do this. I DID NOT BUY THE CAR in that condition, i am sure of it.
Not to contradict you, but is it a possibility that it was like that, but the rain and condensation covered it up enough that you didn't notice at the time? The time of day that you looked at it in might have had some concealing effect as well (if it was dusk or later it may have blended in). I only ask because it seems strange that it faded so quickly; I can't think of anything that would have that effect in such a short period of time.
Old 06-17-2003, 12:55 AM
  #25  
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Kuhl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 359
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Kuhl is on a distinguished road
Default

I would try the bug+tar remover first cause it cant really hurt anything. It seems as if heat and moisture has created a pocket where the clearcoat has actually seperated from the base coat. Just what it looks like to me. If thats the case it will have to be sanded down to the base and reclearcoated. Thats as long as there has been actual damage to the base coat and the fogginess you are seeing is just moisture.
Old 06-17-2003, 01:32 AM
  #26  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Drifter420's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bedroom, Ontario
Posts: 3,266
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Drifter420 is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by Kuhl
I would try the bug+tar remover first cause it cant really hurt anything. It seems as if heat and moisture has created a pocket where the clearcoat has actually seperated from the base coat. Just what it looks like to me. If thats the case it will have to be sanded down to the base and reclearcoated. Thats as long as there has been actual damage to the base coat and the fogginess you are seeing is just moisture.
She'* tried rubbin compound and no success ( would that be the same as bug + Tar remover? ) and you can clearly see that ( well at least live with my own eyes ) that it'* under the clear coat. So I guess that means I sandblast the whole hood ( to clear the clear coat and roughen the rest of the area up for repainting, and redo it ) or just throw the bra back on for now..
Old 06-17-2003, 07:51 AM
  #27  
Junior Member
 
2000SilverBullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2000SilverBullet is on a distinguished road
Default

Wow.

Maybe it'* just the picture but it sure looks like it'* down to the bare aluminum metal.

Repainting is probably the only way you're going to get it fixed.

Follow Ty'* advice.
Old 06-17-2003, 12:49 PM
  #28  
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
acg_ssei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,409
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
acg_ssei is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SANDBLASTING

Originally Posted by BUBBA
WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT TRY SANDBLASTING THE HOOD TO GET THE PAINT OFF !! YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY WARP IT. SAND THE PAINT DOWN ONLY.]
All this aside, Step One is to Go Back to the Dealer. Realistically, you should have been on the phone to them within three minutes after discovering the damage, and parked outside their place at opening time the very next day. The longer you delay in bringing the car in to show them, the more wiggle room they have in claiming that it'* not their problem.

The minute you try to do anything to that paint yourself, beyond maybe trying some cleaner or wax on it, their obligation to fix the finish stops. Give them a chance to make it right first, at their expense. If you go sandblasting it, sanding it, repainting it or whatever, you can't exactly go to them after _that_ and expect them to do anything to fix your original problem.

And if you think you're at all likely to wind up in small-claims court over this, start documenting everything you do and say right now, who you talked to at the dealership, when each conversation occurred, etc. Good luck...
Old 06-17-2003, 03:23 PM
  #29  
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
BUBBA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: sterling heights michigan
Posts: 495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BUBBA is on a distinguished road
Default Re: SANDBLASTING

Originally Posted by Drifter420
Originally Posted by BUBBA
] WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT TRY SANDBLASTING THE HOOD TO GET THE PAINT OFF !! YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY WARP IT. SAND THE PAINT DOWN ONLY. [/b]
I meant it not as takin the paint off.. I meant it as sanding the paint so the new paint coat will adhere to it hell I'm too lazy to sand it all the way down to bare metal when I don't have to. You think that would be fine for that? Or do I have to bring out the elbow grease :(
my neighbor has a 94 silver se that has what looks to be the same problem with the paint( he has bra on it) aint no rubbin it out. if you decide to repaint........wax and grease remover FIRST. sand down with 400 grit wet sandpaper. then base coat then clear coat. you can then sand clearcoat after it dries with 1500 grit then buff out. that will give you the smooth glassy look.
Old 06-18-2003, 03:12 AM
  #30  
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
willwren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

No bra in the world can do that UNLESS there'* something on the Bra. Mine did something similar in a much milder sense when it was new. I took it off, the 'fade' disappeared, and I washed the bra on gentle cycle in the machine......never had a problem since. I had Jseabert do the same to his before he put it on. Mine'* been on all winter with no probs as long as I keep a couple good coats of wax underneath.

There may have been some chemical outgassing of the vinyl.....or the bra was treated with something. Sounds to me like the dealer is responsible. Lay enough pressure on them, and they'll fix it. Their cost on painting your hood is pretty low.


Quick Reply: To those of you who want a bra...NEVER WASTE YOUR MONEY!!!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:08 AM.