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Old 12-12-2005, 10:57 AM   #11
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If you guys are thinking that I don't like my SE, you guys are wrong, I really like that car. I'm just saying that you guys are talking in praises for the SSEi and I feel left out. I really like that car and I wont part with it until it'* completely totaled. I realize that SE were built in massive qualities versus SSEi but when I search the threads I keep seeing SSEi at the bottom I feel like that I'm the one that brought a crappy slow car even through it'* not. I'm not looking into making a track monster, I'm just looking for a quick comfortable car that can keep up with the ricers. I'm looking into making it respectably quick and be able to take corners in stride and not lean heavily on two tires.

SE rules! I hope so...
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I love my SE it gave me 304k trouble free miles before fading away. Of course when it breathes again it will be force fed, but how many L67s have you heard of going over 300k?? I love my SE, and will never sell it, there is something about a car that won't shift into third until 90 at WOT, and feels like a Lazy Boy sofa.
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To get that response and cornering you are looking for, I'd start off with opening up the intake and changing the endlinks on the car.

Both make quite a large difference and are reasonably low cost.
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If you guys are thinking that I don't like my SE, you guys are wrong, I really like that car. I'm just saying that you guys are talking in praises for the SSEi and I feel left out. I really like that car and I wont part with it until it'* completely totaled. I realize that SE were built in massive qualities versus SSEi but when I search the threads I keep seeing SSEi at the bottom I feel like that I'm the one that brought a crappy slow car even through it'* not. I'm not looking into making a track monster, I'm just looking for a quick comfortable car that can keep up with the ricers. I'm looking into making it respectably quick and be able to take corners in stride and not lean heavily on two tires.

SE rules! I hope so...
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Technically the supercharged here are the minority. However when someone goes searching for the most power... the supercharger is what you will find as the first answer.

There are many articles and things that apply to all cars and many that don't apply to the supercharged.
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Don't feel left out because you don't have the SSEi. I can see how and why you feel the way you do. In fact, there was just a Notice posted regarding your very concern:

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=44368

I'm on my third SE and absolutely love it. Wouldn't have it any other way. RepinS is right on track...the SE has less gadgetry. Which equals less failure points. The NA 3800 is an awesome engine to tote around an already sporty and good looking ride.

If your desire is to have a great looking car, with plenty of power, that'* very reliable, then I think you've found your match!

Welcome to the club, BTW!
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:57 AM   #17
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I have noticed that many people keep saying "Oh that SE is nice but SSEi is better" "It aint worth modifying, it'* easier to sell the SE and buy a SSEi". So on and on.

My question is this, are SE good for anything? Do not say Gas Mileage because that is not important. I feel that many SSEi kinda look down on SE even though I know everyone loves a Bonneville regardless of its trim level. I do realize that if you really want to pump up a Bonneville and make it fast, it'* best to start with a SSEi. Some people don't have a choice of a SE or SSEi. Like me, I saw a real nice Bonneville and I brought it, it was a SE. I know you guys will want pics but give me a few days and I'll have a friend scan a pic then email it to me then I'll post it.

In conclusion, are SE even worth of anything?
It comes down to what you want out of your car.

Think of the SSEi as having the cake and eating it too.

The SE is your baseline car. Its a great set of family wheels that still looks incredibly good.

The two middle versions (SLE and SSE) have alot of the toys the SSEi do, but mostly without the supercharged L67 engine. This is great for someone who just wants a comfortable ride, but isn't interested in accelerating really fast. (I say this because I went almost as FAST at the top end in my SE as I do in my SSEi at this point, though I haven't nearly begun the major speed mods yet.)

Even within the SSEi itself there are mixes of options. Willren can chime in here best because I know his car had EVERYTHING. My 95 SSEi for example doesn't have the SSEi floor mats (Not that I'm complaining, the ones in there suck liquid like there'* no tomorrow). But it does have the sun roof and it does have the electronic leveling control. It doesn't have the CCR struts up front, but Billboost37'* does.

Those fine tuning details really make the cars very individual.

The bottom line is that you need to consider what is important to you:

Family vehicle: SE
Luxury without speed: SLE or SSE
Everything but the kitchen sink (and all its associated baggage): SSEi
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all bonnevilles are lux. with speed. Some may be faster than others but your SSEi is just as much a family car as everyone else'* bonneville.

Its not like the SSEi badge makes it a sports car.
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The SE and the SLE are great cars....I really love mine, and you even have the advantage of having the L36 in yours...I have the SLE package and its taken me a while but i have added alot of the SSE/SSEi options to mine......the auto dim mirror, Blue tinted outside mirrios, Rear tweeter Grilles, trunk lid insulator, the AL7 seats, ....right now the only thing that i am missing from the SSE is the ECC and the HUD, and thoes were both options.....I personally am glad that i dont have a */C car....i have had my bonne for over 5 years now....(got it when i got my license) and i havent had a speeding ticket, and believe me i go fast....i really believe that if i had a */C car that i either would be in the hospital or without a license because doing something dumb with all the power of the */C engine....i like to thank the N/A for keeping me driving slow...

I love my SLE, and there are things you can do to make them better....
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I personally prefer the styling of my SE. I don't like the fog/driving lights in the bumper. And my SE has enough "umph" to, um, show off once in a while. We may not have the power of a supercharger, and are limited at a lower speed, but it'* still more than enough car to have fun, and look good doing it!

A supercharger would be fun, as well as the ECC and the HUD, but not neccessary for me.

I think the major "differences" between the NA'* and the "Whiners" is generally just well meaning sibling rivalry. We're all one big family, and we like to pick on one another occasionally. Some folks just ain't as good as getting across the point that they're just kidding around as others.

I believe I was the first person to use the "Stop the Supercharger Oppression" sig, and at that time everyone new it was a joke. But, as with all groups, the larger the audience, the easier it is to be misunderstood.
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