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Old 06-20-2006, 04:38 PM   #11
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Changing suspension rates on just on end will change the handling balance of the car.

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I always hate trying to explain this...

The FE2 rear springs were designed with the air struts( ELC ) in mind... The spring and the air assisted strut went hand in hand for ride quality and a level ride... Ever notice if you see a Caddy, A park Ave , a 98 Olds, or even a Bonneville and they have bad rear struts or a dead ELC the rear end sags? This is because the air struts are an important part of the system...

On the F41 and FE1 equipped Bonneville this was not an issue as the spring was set to hold the weight of the car and the spring is progressive in that the more weight placed upon them the less they will compress.. Sounds stupid I know...

Also this depends on how stiff you want the car to ride.... And to top it off you need to take into consideration that too much air in the rear struts can affect the alignment to a certain degree... I like to have the alignment set with 20 psi in the rear shocks... I like the ride quality I get from 20 Psi and the rear end is not too high... 35 Psi is like a brick...

On a trip, I loaded the car down, suitcases and the like... I had to run at 35 psi to keep the back end level, it gave a good ride and wasn't like a brick as there was plenty of weight in the trunk... Once I hit those Rough roads I started thinking the ride had become stiffer than I wanted it to be, and at points it was bone jarring...

Being that the quick struts you used may have had the FE1 springs, I reccomend that you keep you original rear springs, and add a set of Monroe Matic Plus or Sensatrack air struts... see if you like it before you decide to change springs...

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thanks man that helps alot.

and yes what you said MAKES ALOT of sens to me...

i will try doing just the struts with the air rid and soo how i like it.

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next question witch one....


Monroe MacPherson Strut: Sensa-Trac
Sensa-Trac Strut: Rear; w/Automatic Rear Air
$104.44


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Monroe MacPherson Strut: Gas-Charged
Gas Matic Strut: Rear; W/ Automatic Rear Air
$78.44
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Those are drop springs... But we are not sure if they work...

If they did work it would be interesting to say the least... And even then are they made to F41 spec?

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next question witch one....


Monroe MacPherson Strut: Sensa-Trac
Sensa-Trac Strut: Rear; w/Automatic Rear Air
$104.44


or


Monroe MacPherson Strut: Gas-Charged
Gas Matic Strut: Rear; W/ Automatic Rear Air
$78.44
ahhh that has to come from the advanced auto group.... When I bought mine they were $74 each, and then you need to have the Monroe kit AK29 to adapt to air struts..

I like my Monroe Matic Plus struts, But I have heard good about the sensatrack as well

Its all you

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