re-designed car on tha block....... - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


General GM Chat When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made. Chat about all things GM (and related cars). Off-topic stuff should be in the Lounge, and all Model specific mechanical problems should be posted in the proper forum.

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-01-2003, 01:40 AM   #1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Purgatory
Posts: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
mista_sse is on a distinguished road
Default re-designed car on tha block.......

I know the new GP'* are now on sale, my question is has anyone seen them on tha street yet?



It'* Mista on tha old GP!
mista_sse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2003, 11:10 AM   #2
Senior Member
Expert Gearhead
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 20,892
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Jim W is on a distinguished road
Default

Nope, but I read an online article on Car and Driver.com and the Nissan Maxima handed the new 04 GP its *** in a lot of areas, like general fit and finish. You know, the typcial stuff that C and D likes to compare.

Have they SC'd the new 04 GP?
Jim W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2003, 11:42 AM   #3
Senior Member 8-16-02
Posts like a Northstar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 529
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
complinitor is on a distinguished road
Default

The GP come in 3 flavors this year...GT, GTP and GTP CompG. No more weak 3100, the base engine is now the 3800 Series III L26. Bringing in the GTP is the L32 SC motor, and the CompG gets the same engine but gets better valve lift for an extra 10 horsepower. That'* not advertised, but it'* there. The new setup can easily give 300-325 Crank HP now. The 4T65E-HD has been fitted with a limited slip diff, and hardened bands. Guess they've been listening. The CompG gets TAP shift, GM'* version of a manual controled paddle shifter. It also gets better handling and stopping power. If anyone want the full specs on these cars let me know. I have them.

Car and Driver is one of the WORST mags for car info, only beaten by AUTOMOBILE. These rags regularly degrade ALL American car manufacturers. They even rip on MB now that they own Chrysler. Although the new Maxima is very crisp in most areas, it can't hold a candle to the new GP in style. Have you seen the new Maxima? It'* like an Altima has been fed a Gremlin and crapped the Maxima. It'* too long to have that "half-an-egg" design of the Altima and it looks nothing like the previous model. It should have been given a new name. The strangest feature on the new Maxima is the glass roof that comes standard. It'* a strip of glass about a foot wide that goes from front to back. It doesn't open. Why? Because Japanese automakers have been accused of being boring as of late. Nissan wants to be just the opposite. That'* what got American Motors the Grelim and Pacer. Just hoping......
complinitor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2003, 11:55 AM   #4
Senior Member
Expert Gearhead
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 20,892
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Jim W is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
It'* like an Altima has been fed a Gremlin and crapped the Maxima.
ROFL...brilliant!!!

No, I agree, I was shocked at the way C and D ripped up the GP. Its about time that North American cars have reached the luxury/performance level of some higher end German cars etc
Jim W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2003, 01:55 PM   #5
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Purgatory
Posts: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
mista_sse is on a distinguished road
Default

..........so, nobody has actually seen one, I seen one at a dealership but that'* not in motion, I'm sure I'll be see'n them very soon.




It'* Mista can neva get a straight answer here..........
mista_sse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2003, 05:08 PM   #6
Senior Member
Expert Gearhead
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 20,892
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Jim W is on a distinguished road
Default

Sorry Mista...back on topic...*whipped* LOL

OK...despite the performance improvements and the new Series III...what is up with that front end....I'm not sure I want to see this on the road now..



What happened?
Jim W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2003, 05:44 PM   #7
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Bedroom, Ontario
Posts: 3,266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Drifter420 is on a distinguished road
Default

Was at the Auto Show and saw the new 04 GP GTP with the series III motor in it. I"ve taken a few pics of the new block ( none of the car ).. and as soon as I get them developed I'll see if I can get someone ( with a working scanner ) to scan the pics. I asked them at the Auto Show if they've fixed the Upper head gasket issues with the new mill..they were and didn't even know there was a problem from the previous series II. My question is what would be needed to have the */C ( M120 ) fit from the series III to the Series II other then TB and possilby new PCM or reflash of the old one.. hummm...
Drifter420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2003, 06:08 PM   #8
Senior Member
Posts like a Corvette
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: N.W. Indiana
Posts: 1,206
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Roadrash187 is on a distinguished road
Default

I think the new GP is just about as ugly as the new Maxima. The only thing Im really lilkin about the GP is the drivetrain.
Roadrash187 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2003, 08:25 PM   #9
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 12,432
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
J Wikoff is on a distinguished road
Default

I saw a new black GP on the highway today. It was going the other way, so I didn't get a good look at it.
J Wikoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2003, 01:19 PM   #10
Senior Member 8-16-02
Posts like a Northstar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 529
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
complinitor is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drifter420
Was at the Auto Show and saw the new 04 GP GTP with the series III motor in it. I"ve taken a few pics of the new block ( none of the car ).. and as soon as I get them developed I'll see if I can get someone ( with a working scanner ) to scan the pics. I asked them at the Auto Show if they've fixed the Upper head gasket issues with the new mill..they were and didn't even know there was a problem from the previous series II. My question is what would be needed to have the */C ( M120 ) fit from the series III to the Series II other then TB and possilby new PCM or reflash of the old one.. hummm...
You would need the SC and the lower intake only. The M120 is what gives the extra 30 HP. The intake is ported to better match the heads. Only minor upgrades other than that...higher fuel pressure, colder plugs...stuff that most of us have already done.

I'm checking on the PCM right now. If it is the same unitflased differently, we may have found the edge on the GP'ers!
complinitor is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
92 sc block shot ...can I use nsc block???? 92 SSE! mo Charger 1992-1999 17 04-20-2007 07:17 PM
Poorly designed Disney Kids Ride Doppleganger Lounge 2 11-23-2006 10:29 PM
i don't think this is what pontiac designed the T-Tops for sqela Your Other Rides: Pics & Videos 12 03-06-2006 10:17 PM
GM designed our fans to always be on? (Auto climate control) BillBoost37 Everything Electrical & Electronic 4 08-08-2005 10:22 AM
Retard question - who makes/designed the 3800? BusMaster007 Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 3 01-25-2003 08:04 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:31 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.