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Old 10-27-2006, 12:15 PM   #1
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Default Ok, exactly how light are the SLE SC'*?

Ok, since I have my 95 SLE SC for sale I have pulled all the garbage out that I usually carry with me (tools, parts, 100'* of CD'*, etc...).
Anyhow last night, my cousin was wondering the difference in weight between his 97 GTP coupe and my brothers 97 SSEi.
So I road out to the scale with him in his 97 GTP Coupe. He had about 50 lbs of unnecessaries, 3/4 tank of gas and with no one in the car he tipped the scales @ 3640 lbs.

We then came back to the house, he got in my brothers SSEi and I jumped in my SLE SC. He got on the scale first and the showed 3640 with 1/4 tank of gas and about 30 lbs of junk in the trunk.
So he'* all excited that his car weighs about 50 lbs less than the SSEi.
Then I pull on the scale with nothing in the car except what it would have had on the dealers lot new, minus rear floor mats and the window stickers. I had 1/8 tank of gas, but that was barely enough to put me over 3400......3410 to be exact.

Now thinking back to track days when I stripped the trunk bare, took the back seat and floor mats out, as well as removed the drivers head lamp that probably dropped the cars weight to around 3300. Then I only weigh about 155 with the helmet, so that brings the weight back up, but still well under 3500.
May not say so much for HP when looking at my 1/4 #'*, but wow, I thought the car had weighed another 50 lbs before.
I'll go take a shot tonight if the tank isn't too full, but it'* definitely a KODAK moment for us racers.
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Greyhare and I were discussing this very thing at work yesterday. There'* about a 200 to 300 pound difference between my L67 SLE and my L67 SSEi. Estimate based on different times at the scales in varying weight 'loading' conditions, but it'* a fair estimate based on the scale numbers I have for both cars.

The sunroof adds a significant amount of weight, and not all SLE'* have it, but mine does, so where'* the 200 pound difference?
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The sunroof adds a significant amount of weight, and not all SLE'* have it, but mine does, so where'* the 200 pound difference?
Bumpers, Bill, the Bumpers. At least they have 40 lbs more combined vs the SE bumpers. I know my old 93 SSE'* front bumper when I swapped the correct one on in place of the 92 SE bumper I temporarily used was a good 20+ heavier. That reinfocement isn't exactly the lightest thing.
Then the lumbar seats probably weigh 15 lbs more each, and the HUD system weighs a good 20 lbs , wiring and all.
The rest of the weight, I suppose the extra lettering on the emblems.
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Spring weight on most. FE1 springs are lighter. But not on mine. I have FE2 (although slightly smaller in diameter than my SSEi'* FE2 springs, so theres a pound per spring maybe?).

AL7 seats can't weigh much more than my dual leather 6-ways, other than the weight of the pump for the lumbar functions (and the weight of the air in the chambers ).

Side cladding is a little.

We may never know until I completely disassemble both cars and weigh every part.
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Are there sound deadening differences between regular Bonnevilles vs. the SSEi?

Some guys over on the Toyota Cressida board that I run have stripped out their interiors... a good 80lbs in there, and the Cress was somewhat along the lines of Bonneville in terms of luxo/sport and initial cost when new...
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Hey Repins! I was formally Pooey, Racin_Poo from Box Designs, small world huh. I used to wonder what the hell a Bonneville was, never saw one until I started driving one.

I can imagine little things at a time adding to 200 pounds, the seats are a tad bigger in the SSEI, the HUD, more gauges = more wires, more wires = more tape and zip ties, how about the 8 peice sound system, the embroided floor mats, the bigger rear view mirror, the CCR, ELC, bigger transmission, the air pump, is there a spare tire difference? Side cladding too, oh and on my SLE, I have no badges.

A difference in the rims may make a difference too and your tire selection.
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I was formally Pooey, Racin_Poo from Box Designs.

sorry for teh off-topic-ness
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I can imagine little things at a time adding to 200 pounds, the seats are a tad bigger in the SSEI, the HUD, more gauges = more wires, more wires = more tape and zip ties, how about the 8 peice sound system, the embroided floor mats, the bigger rear view mirror, the CCR, ELC, bigger transmission, the air pump, is there a spare tire difference? Side cladding too, oh and on my SLE, I have no badges.

A difference in the rims may make a difference too and your tire selection.
I have everything in your quote above in bold and more, and my SLE is STILL at least 200 pounds lighter than my SSEi. And yes, it has a heavy sunroof too. So I think it'* obvious that'* not the difference.
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The taillights have an extra lense, trunk lid mat, big exhaust tips, thicker suspension parts, dual air bags, stock amp, trunk accessory bag.

What would make the tranny heavier? A spider gear?
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The taillights have an extra lense, trunk lid mat, big exhaust tips, thicker suspension parts, dual air bags, stock amp, trunk accessory bag.

What would make the tranny heavier? A spider gear?
Tails are no different in weight (I've had them all off both cars at the same time), my exhaust is the same as the SSEi (dual outs) with a HEAVIER OEM muffler than what is on the SSEi, more than making up for two aluminum exhaust tips, I have FE2 suspension and HEAVIER struts on the SLE due to CCR than the SSEi, I have dual airbags as well.
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