I can't wait to put it on


....not

80k on the original UIM, I figure it'* time to change it.

GOOD LUCK! And yeah I bet it'* time. Be sure to hit up the lower gaskets too! 77,000 was the first time mine failed by the way.

you need the lower gaskets too

I'll get them tomorrow

You'll likely find that the UIM is OK. You will be VERY surprised at the condition of the lowers. I did my lowers the first time around at 77K. They were a mess to say the least....

Yep...aluminum frame lowers are the only lowers my local dealer has... no more plastic.

It must be only the Series 2 lowers that had issues. Or maybe the way dex-cool reacted with them. My lowers were perfect at 100k when they came out.

Make sure you send in that core to Bob Dillon.

so are you supposed to change the whole manifold assembly when the gaskets are done?

my mechanic said you're not supposed to.. along with the lower pcv o-ring isn't supposed to be there, but yet without the o-ring, it made a horrible hissing, willwren gave me pics of his WITH an o ring, my brothers 3800 MCSS has one on it, and to top it off, it'* still losing fluids

is it supposed to be changed and how much is the part

Have you read ANYthing about the UIM failures on the VinK motors? Not changing that UIM could eventually cost you the entire motor. It has for a dozen or so members here in 3 years.

And what pic did I send you? I don't recall that.

Your mechanic isn't very 3800 savvy apparently, and your friend with the MCSS....is he supercharged or not? If not, he'* got serious issues that are going to cost him his motor. I suggest he join our Forum ASAP.

Send thee old intake to Bob Dillon!!!

And I'm one of the ones that lost an engine (and tranny, but I just got lucky on that one) to a UIM failure. It were expensive!!!!