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Old 01-18-2004, 09:40 AM   #21
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So they actualy knew what happened in my accident?
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So they actualy knew what happened in my accident?
Probably not because I believe Bonnies started getting these in '94.

I agree that the box can have many good uses and that it would certainly save GM some warranty headaches (which is good and understandable). I just think its kind of like big brother. I mean, we all speed on the highway, right? Who does 65 these days? Well if you think about it you could easily be charged for going over the speed limit and then be accused of causing the accident because of that.
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So they actualy knew what happened in my accident?
Probably not because I believe Bonnies started getting these in '94.

I agree that the box can have many good uses and that it would certainly save GM some warranty headaches (which is good and understandable). I just think its kind of like big brother. I mean, we all speed on the highway, right? Who does 65 these days? Well if you think about it you could easily be charged for going over the speed limit and then be accused of causing the accident because of that.
I had a 97 SSE before I bought the 93. Sorry.
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I had a 97 SSE before I bought the 93. Sorry.
Ahhhhh....then yes they probably did, if they obtained the info....
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There was a big court case sort of like this a while ago. I cannot rember all of the exact details, but it was something like this. A guy rented a van from a rental company, he signed a document saying he would obay traffic laws. He gets back to the rental place they charge him money(I dont know how much) for speeding. The guy askes, "how did you know" well apparently this rental company installed GPS in everyone of their cars... and they happened to download the info from the GPS unit and saw that he went over the posted speed limit. There was a big deal in court about privacy rights and whatnot....

Do you ever see the black box doing this, like being able to send our speeds to GM or local authorites?
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Well Onstar is getting close. I don't think they can tell how fast you are going (maybe they can?!) but they can certainly tell where you are. Simple math should be able to tell you how fast the vehicle is going.

I remember that court case, as it was in Connecticut I believe. I believe the rental company ended up losing, which is a good thing! Not disclosing that type of thing at the time of retnal is not good, IMHO.

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onstar knows... If your doing dubble the posted speed limit (excluding school zones, because onstar doesnt know where they are for the most part...) they can flag you, and remove warrenty.
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onstar knows... If your doing dubble the posted speed limit (excluding school zones, because onstar doesnt know where they are for the most part...) they can flag you, and remove warrenty.
Er, references, please?
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sure... Go buy a new gm vehicle a pull 110mph+ in a 55..
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sure... Go buy a new gm vehicle a pull 110mph+ in a 55..
Okaaaayyy...

So they'll build and sell to you a vehicle that'* easily capable of 110 mph, then yank your warranty if you go that fast?

Is the warranty revocation point 110 mph? Not, say, a nice round number like 100 mph?

What if you're in Montana at the time, which doesn't _have_ a 55 mph speed limit on daylight interstates?

What if it'* somebody else driving?

What if it'* a dealership mechanic on a rather enthusiastic road test?

What if On-Star isn't actually On at the time?

...and so on. Basically, I think you're hearing a bit of an urban legend there, unless you can point us to some GM documentation on this subject. A written warranty cuts both ways: if the company is going to refuse to honor it under certain conditions, it needs to spell out what those conditions are, and simply driving fast, in its purest sense, is not in itself grounds for terminating a warranty.
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