I'm sad it has to come to this. - Page 3 - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


General GM Chat When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made. Chat about all things GM (and related cars). Off-topic stuff should be in the Lounge, and all Model specific mechanical problems should be posted in the proper forum.

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-27-2004, 10:58 PM   #21
Senior Member
Posts like a Supercharger
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Mashpee, MA
Posts: 178
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
jayare627 is on a distinguished road
Default

I had a 99 GTP and then went to the Bonnie, bought it in 2000 with 22,000 on it for $14k with a bumper to bumper warranty until 104,000 miles!!, then decided to upgrade to the Bonnie for various reasons. The GTP was alot more responsive I will give it that, but the ride was also alot harsher. However the tourque steer in that thing was !!! I got rid of it @ 50,000 miles just because the SSEi came up at the right price and they gave me what i owed on the GTP....i'll post a pic of the GTP as long as it doesn't get me in too much trouble!



jayare627 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2004, 11:20 PM   #22
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Sauk Centre, MN
Posts: 5,458
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
OLBlueEyesBonne is on a distinguished road
Default

Yes, the GTP is faster, and doesn't require a custom burn ECM as early in the modding process as far as the KR goes, but you will learn about feeling uncomfortable even after getting out of the car. My sister has a 1997 GT and she borrowed my car ther other day and when she got home she asked if I wanted to trade. I was like "Forget what a SC'ed 3800 had for power since you stopped driving the Riviera?" She was like "No! The car just rides so much nicer and the steering is so much smoother."

That was pretty much the same response I got from a couple of the guys from the MN club Grand Prix who rode in it also. Then when they popped the hood to put the pulley on they were like "$h!T!!!! Where'd all the working space come from?" They said there was twice as much room to work in for changing plugs, pulley, and much more. They said it would be extremely easy to do the rockers too compared to the W-bodies.

Anyhow, everyone has there own tastes and I do respect your'*. Remember, though that we do have room for GP guys here. Hey, at least it'* still a 3800.
OLBlueEyesBonne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2004, 11:33 PM   #23
Sol
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,909
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sol is on a distinguished road
Default

I am well aware of the quote 'subpar' interior, and the harsher ridiing conditions.

I am a very performance oriented person, so interior makes no difference to me. As for the riding conditions, I prefer a harder riding car. Yes, I will miss the adjustable suspension, but I plan on doing not only engine work, but also suspension work too. It'* going to be a very stiff car when I'm done. I like that kind of stuff. I envy the imports that can handle so great, and I want to get a small taste of that at least, and still have the type of power that the 3800 makes.
Sol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2004, 11:43 PM   #24
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Westerville, Ohio 2000 Black SSEi
Posts: 6,127
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rogue is on a distinguished road
Default

Sol,

GTP'* are not that bad, I did enjoy my 97, but had always wanted an SSEi so I traded up when I could. My only sugestion for you is not to get a 97. They had no traction control and the PCM is harder to tweak. I would recommend a 98 or 99 (I hear the 99'* are a little bit faster stock). Enjoy it when you get it.

My old 97 GTP
Rogue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2004, 11:44 PM   #25
Sol
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,909
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sol is on a distinguished road
Default

I'll keep an eye on the 98-99'*. Thanks.
Sol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2004, 11:44 PM   #26
Senior Member
Posts like a Camaro
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,019
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
CFoote is on a distinguished road
Default

It'* all good, and remember the subpar thing was just my opinion As long as you are happy that is what matters.
CFoote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2004, 11:45 PM   #27
Sol
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,909
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sol is on a distinguished road
Default

You are right though. The Bonnies are much more luxurious. It'* not a concern of mine though.
Sol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 12:10 AM   #28
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2000SilverBullet is on a distinguished road
Default


Downgrading from a Bonne to an GTP.
Can help but think that you will regret it after you've lived with it for a while.
It'* all in the little details that make the difference.
2000SilverBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 12:17 AM   #29
Sol
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,909
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sol is on a distinguished road
Default

I've had my fun with her. Time to try new things.
Sol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 12:17 AM   #30
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Westerville, Ohio 2000 Black SSEi
Posts: 6,127
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rogue is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000SilverBullet

Downgrading from a Bonne to an GTP.
Can help but think that you will regret it after you've lived with it for a while.
It'* all in the little details that make the difference.
Technically from a 95 SSE to a 98-99GTP I would say he is uprgrading. It sounds like he wants something that is easily modable and will fit his budget. The GTP will do well. If he had a late model SSEi and wanted a GTP I would say he is downgrading from a luxury point of view but from a speed POV he is gaining.
Rogue is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
come to the chat room, come to the chat room, come come come wjcollier07 Lounge 12 11-23-2006 10:43 PM
It's a sad sad sad sad day.... JimmyJames83 General GM Chat 21 05-29-2004 03:46 PM
Sad Sad Day in Bonneville Land NiKo General GM Chat 10 04-21-2004 11:26 PM
Sad, Sad. SE SC Gold Edition bit the dust OLBlueEyesBonne General GM Chat 15 02-16-2004 06:49 AM
Sad Sad Mod Boy Jim W Lounge 43 09-12-2003 12:35 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:37 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.