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Old 12-29-2003, 11:35 PM   #21
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Oh and some of the Pontiac Grand Prix'* had the Quad 4 engine.... I think some of the W bodies used them... But the Lumina had the 2.5 tech 4 for a couple of years...
Yes you are correct, the Grand Prix & Cutlass Supreme had the Quad 4 option in 90 & 91. The Lumina had the Tech 4 option from 90-92.

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a 2000 grand am has ungodly acceleration? 0-60 in 7.7, 15.7 i think?..................
I was thinking the same thing. Its quick, no doubt, but not "ungodly." I guess it depends on what you are used to though.

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dbtk2 shhhhhhhhhh i promised shhhhhhhh
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Unreliable? I'll argue. My ownership of that motor spanned 6 years. Nothing but oil changes and a thermostat.

Have you owned one, Joe?
That'* just one Quad 4, perhaps you got lucky

I've never heard one rave about that motor, until now, being you, will

I tend to judge a motor'* reliability from the general consensus of many owners, not just one. My 3800'* had it'* share of problems, doesn't mean it'* the 3800 is an unreliable piece of crap

Example: upper intake failures on our motors, not everybody has 'em, but they're common enough to be an issue, and from what I've heard, Quad 4 head problems are pretty rampant.
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my sister owned one and my uncle is ASE ceritfied mechanic at the local pontiac
dealer maybe you just got lucky

as for a tech 4 my g/f dad own a 91 ceria with the tech 4 it has 100k no problems execpt fuel pump few months back he is the original owner

power=quad 4
reilablity = tech 4

thats just from my experince
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i agree
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I love my GA GT, it'* a great car. After driving my SSEi, it sometimes feels like a go-cart. And, the strange thing is, it is not really that much smaller. In my opinion, it is just a smaller Bonne with similar looks and similar, although slightly less, features. Pontiac has certainly created two impressive cars in the both. However, mid 15'* in the quarter mile for a GA GT is, by no means, considered slow. It may run the 15 flat my SSEi is capable of, but then it has 65 less horsepower and 75 less lb-ft of torque. But, I dunno why people with N/A 3800'* are beating GA GT'*. To me, this is a great mystery?!?

Edit: FYI, the quarter mile time for my GA GT in my signature is quite outdated. It was achieved a few weeks after picking the car up with the engine just broken in. Since then, the intake resonator has been removed, and the stock airbox is no more. Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to take my GA GT to a track after the new modifications. However, other GA GT'* with similar modifications have netted an average of mid 15'* in the quarter mile.
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gotta give props to the good old "iron duke" that thing was a beast.....
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