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Old 12-29-2003, 04:45 PM   #11
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I hope you don't mean Quad4 head gaskets. I've owned 2 for a total of 6 years....never had any mechanical problems other than a single stuck thermostat.

The 3100/3400 series motors in use today are known for head gasket failure.
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Hmm, perhaps I'm confusing it for another 4-banger in the GA (any such animal)? I've heard of cracked head problems, head gaskets etc etc...
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Proabably a different 4. The Quad4 is the predecessor to the Aurora and Northstar V8'*. Hell-bent capability. They raced these things professionally for a number of years.

AJ Foyt broke some land speed records at Bonneville with the Quad4 that haven't been topped to this day.
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What is the Quad 4, anyway? Neighbour'* got a 2.5 I4 in his Pontiac 6000, low mileage but it runs and sounds like crap (unaffectionately called a diesel), says "4 Tech" on the intake. At least he'* got an LG3 '87 LE to replace it now

1995ish Grand Am, I've heard only bad things from those with reliability.
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Nice kill Joe, I'm not surprised you beat the GA GT. My sister'* b/f has one (2002 I think) On the drive to Michigan yesterday he punched it a few times. It had some nice passing power, but I didn't feel the same grunt as I do when I punch mine.

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I don't mind the interior of the GA GT my sis'* b/f has, but I do think they overdid it a bit on the bubble style dash. I am considering getting a shift **** from one though. I like it better than my t-style ****.
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What is the Quad 4, anyway? Neighbour'* got a 2.5 I4 in his Pontiac 6000, low mileage but it runs and sounds like crap (unaffectionately called a diesel), says "4 Tech" on the intake. At least he'* got an LG3 '87 LE to replace it now

1995ish Grand Am, I've heard only bad things from those with reliability.
The 6000 never went into a 6000. The intake cover should be clearly marked as 'Quad4' and the car should be badged to match. The only cars that saw this motor that I know of:

Cutlass Calais
Grand Am
(I've owned one of each with the Q4)
and
Beretta

There may be more. The Quad 4 was a fairly large-bore DOHC 15-valve I-4.
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Here, one of those motors. Distributor/cap/plug wires is mass fun to do on this car - it'* all on the lower part of the BACK of the motor. 2.5L, not a Quad4? I notice half-dead old Grand Ams sounding the same.
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The last good engine the GA had was the Quad4. Nothing since can be categorized in the 'huge balls' department.

the most unreiable engine
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The last good engine the GA had was the Quad4. Nothing since can be categorized in the 'huge balls' department.

the most unreiable engine
Sorry, But I would take any Quad 4, before I would look at a Tech 4...

and i'd take a import 4 banger before any american 4
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Unreliable? I'll argue. My ownership of that motor spanned 6 years. Nothing but oil changes and a thermostat.

Have you owned one, Joe?
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