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Old 03-23-2008, 10:09 AM   #151
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Well, no tubing! I imagine that no sane or legitimate would allow those to be used since the metal could not take ~40 PSI. There'* probably no chance of resurfacing the interior for any feasible cost. It would probably be cheaper to get new wheels than to "fix" these.
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My son'* rims looked a lot like that when we got the car in August. We wire brushed, sanded & then painted where the tires mount. There was some pitting but I don't think any of the pits were more than about .030 deep. Tires wouldn't hold air for 48 hours before cleaning. He'* only added air once since cleaning & that was just a couple lbs. I say clean up the worst one & see what'* under the corrosion. My guess is they'll be fine.
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My son'* rims looked a lot like that when we got the car in August. We wire brushed, sanded & then painted where the tires mount. There was some pitting but I don't think any of the pits were more than about .030 deep. Tires wouldn't hold air for 48 hours before cleaning. He'* only added air once since cleaning & that was just a couple lbs. I say clean up the worst one & see what'* under the corrosion. My guess is they'll be fine.
I agree with Ted. Clean them up the best you can. The tire shop will probably slather a sealing paste on there if they might leak. One of my torque stars looked fairly bad and I had no issues with it all summer long.
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I had a set of rims looking like that, Get out the old wire wheel and go to town cleanng all that stuff off, the will be fine once the tires are mounted if they use some black tire sealant just make sure they dont make a mess on the outside face, if its the inside that gets covered up with the tires no biggie
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If you're going to scrap them, please send them to Adam'* Rim Emporium.
I can pass along my address, er I mean this scrap yards address.

But I would have to agree with Chris on this. They can wire wheel all that crap off, then use some Bead Sealer around the beads. Away you go!

But, a tire shop would tell you otherwise.

Good luck,
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Ive seen way worse than that roll into our shop, just wire wheel the HELL out of them and bead seal and theyll hold air no problem.
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I agree, they'll seal. The face of them may also be in rough shape, IDK, but the new owner probably won't notice scratches and scrapes, they'll just see chrome.
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People that have tried fixing stuff like this and had it work have posted here. That makes sense since probably the people that have tried fixing their similar wheels and had them fail probably can't post anymore :(
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Bottom line:

Radial tires and tubes don't mix. EVER.

Tried and true methods like those posted here obviously work.



Tubes are to be run on Bias ply tires (like my slicks) ONLY.
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GM'* TSB on refinishing wheels....


Wheels - Aluminum Wheel Refinishing Recommendations

Bulletin No.: 99-08-51-007C

Date: June 19, 2006

INFORMATION
Subject:
Refinishing Aluminum Wheels

Models:
2007 and Prior Passenger Cars and Trucks (Including Saturn)
2003-2007 HUMMER H2
2006-2007 HUMMER H3
2005-2007 Saab 9-7X

Supercede:

This bulletin is being revised to add additional models and model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 99-08-51-007B (Section 08 - Body and Accessories).

This bulletin updates General Motor'* position on refinishing aluminum wheels. GM does not endorse any repairs that involve welding, bending, straightening or re-machining. Only cosmetic refinishing of the wheel'* coatings, using recommended procedures, is allowed.

Evaluating Damage

In evaluating damage, it is the GM Dealer'* responsibility to inspect the wheel for corrosion, scrapes, gouges, etc. The Dealer must insure that such damage is not deeper than what can be sanded or polished off. The wheel must be inspected for cracks. If cracks are found, discard the wheel. Any wheels with bent rim flanges must not be repaired or refinished. Wheels that have been refinished by an outside company must be returned to the same vehicle. The Dealer must record the wheel ID stamp or the cast date on the wheel in order to assure this requirement. Refer to Refinisher'* Responsibility - Outside Company later in this bulletin.

Aluminum Wheel Refinishing Recommendations
^ Chrome-plated aluminum wheels

Re-plating these wheels is not recommended.
^ Polished aluminum wheels

These wheels have a polyester or acrylic clearcoat on them. If the clearcoat is damaged, refinishing is possible. However, the required refinishing process cannot be performed in the dealer environment. Refer to Refinisher'* Responsibility - Outside Company later in this bulletin.
^ Painted aluminum wheels

These wheels are painted using a primer, color coat, and clearcoat procedure. If the paint is damaged, refinishing is possible. As with polished wheels, all original coatings must be removed first. Media blasting is recommended. Refer to GM Aluminum Refinishing Bulletin # 53-17-03A for the re-painting of this type of wheel.
^ Bright, machined aluminum wheels

These wheels have a polyester or acrylic clearcoat on them. In some cases, the recessed "pocket" areas of the wheel may be painted. Surface refinishing is possible. The wheel must be totally stripped by media blasting or other suitable means. The wheel should be resurfaced by using a sanding process rather than a machining process. This allows the least amount of material to be removed.
Important: Do not use any re-machining process that removes aluminum. This could affect the dimensions and function of the wheel.

Painting is an option to re-clearcoating polished and bright machined aluminum wheels. Paint will better mask any surface imperfections and is somewhat more durable than clearcoat alone. GM recommends using Corsican SILVER WAEQ9283 for a fine "aluminum-like" look or Sparkle SILVER WA9967 for a very bright look. As an option, the body color may also be used. When using any of the painting options, it is recommended that all four wheels be refinished in order to maintain color uniformity. Refer to GM Aluminum Refinishing Bulletin # 53-17-03A for specific procedures and product recommendations.

Refinisher'* Responsibility - Outside Company
Important: Some outside companies are offering wheel refinishing services. One such company, Transwheel Corporation (800-892-3733), provides this service within GM guidelines. Other companies may also exist. Such refinished wheels will be permanently marked by the refinisher and are warranted by the refinisher. Any process that re-machines or otherwise re-manufactures the wheel should not be used.

A refinisher'* responsibility includes inspecting for cracks using the Zyglo system or the equivalent. Any cracked wheels must not be refinished. No welding, hammering or reforming of any kind is allowed. The wheel ID must be recorded and follow the wheel throughout the process in order to assure that the same wheel is returned. A plastic media blast may be used for clean up of the wheel. Hand and/or lathe sanding of the machined surface and the wheel window is allowed. Material removal, though, must be kept to a minimum. Re-machining of the wheel is not allowed. Paint and/or clear coat must not be present on the following surfaces: the nut chamfers, the wheel mounting surfaces and the wheel pilot hole. The refinisher must permanently ID stamp the wheel and warrant the painted/clearcoated surfaces fora minimum of one year or the remainder of, the new vehicle warranty, whichever is longer.
Important: Whenever a wheel is refinished, the mounting surface and the wheel nut contact surfaces must not be painted or clearcoated. Coating these surfaces could affect the wheel nut torque.

When re-mounting a tire on an aluminum wheel, coated balance weights must be used in order to reduce the chance of future cosmetic damage.
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