Ok, I've got myself together now....that was tough there for awhile. Part of me is being selfish, 'cuz we like having you around here. You're one of the most outspoken pre 92 guys we have, BUT, I've been where you are right now, and I'll tell you that if you get reliable transprot at this point in your life, it'* one less thing to worry about. Ditch the liabilities, and work on what'* more important. You can come back to us in a couple years when you get your feet under you!

Get your life on track first man. pay off the loans and get a house. Thats VERY important. If you OWN a house you are off to a very good start and if you OWN a house you will have good credit. Live with the KIA for 5 years then sell

Bro, you`ll have to do what is best for you now, heck son i`m over 45 and just got me Bonnie 2 weeks ago. Drove a Tempo for years till i had everything paid off, still have a wicked 67 Riviera GS been in the family since new.But get yourself ahead first there will always be a Bonnie comin` up for sale.Your life and family should come first in all things, and don`t worry will still like you even if you buy a KIA

Well Mike! At least your could get a Subaru WRX! I saw one yesterday fly by me as if I was standing still! I don't know about the Kia though. I guess they're kinda reliable since they're new on the market. :? Remind your parents though that an import will give up all that interior room though & trunk space too. What ever you decide to do just don't leave here because you don't own a Bonneville any more! This club is bigger than both of us!

I think the only reason they are thinking KIA is the price and warranty factor. They can help us out without having to spend a small fortune.
Besides they just bought themselves a new Montana. I went for a look at the kia last night and they don't seem too bad. As long as you don't go with the RIO ( size of a civic). But the Spectra is a nicer size and the Magentis is really nice. For the options they are putting in these cars and the warranties they are giving out, they seem pretty good. The spectra also has a speed variable power steering. Suspension was designed by lotus, so the car can't be all that bad. Besides whatever they wan't to pay for I can't complain. Sell two 12 year old cars and get one new one without having any payments on it.
There is always something good in a bad situation. I'd still like to try and get a GM butfor the same price I can get a sunfire. HMMMMM NOT!, hehe.

You know, there has got to be a good reason that no one will give you a loan on a Kia here in the States. Even with their warranty. The only place you can get a loan for one is through them. They use BankOne for their financing, and no matter how good your credit is, you'll have something like a 12-15% note on that tin can. They are going to get you coming AND going. If you HAVE TO get a new car with a long warranty and don't want to spring for the extra cost of an extended warranty on a GM product, or get raped by the finance guys, then go get a (GULP ) Neon. They come with a 7/70,000. It'* the lesser of two Saddam-level evils.

Well I did some talking to day to some friends at work and did some searching and came to the conclusion that I really don't want a KIA cause it will spend more time in the garage than on the road.
So I will have to see what happens with the financers (parents) and go from there. I was looking at maybe the vibe or matrix or protogé5. But only time will tell.
Once a decision has been made, I will pass it along.

Build an old car, like a Chevy 350, doesnt even have to have much performance on it, it would cost with the car and engine between $1000 - $10000 depending on how wild you conservative you go. And get one before 1973 so you can avoid smog. That'* my theory, and older cars are simpler, you use a screwdriver to tune them.

Like I said in an earlier post. I have a 69 GMC pickup that I can do up and plan on it too. But there is NFW I'm driving that in the winter. Don't forget I live in Ottawa, Ontario Canada. They like to use ALOT of salt around here in the winter.

Every Kia and Hyundai I've driven was a cheap piece of crap. I'd get a used Civic or Corolla, they may be weak econoboxes but at least they are well-built ones.