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Old 08-13-2002, 03:35 PM   #1
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I am just wondering...how much horsepower will take off how many seconds?? I am thinking of RAM AIRing my bonnie with hood scoops and the whole nine yards...but i don't know how much HP that'* going to dock off. CAI is supposed to be about 15HP So say i do the ram air and it'* about 25hp (give or take) and I'm running about 15.6 now, how much is the 25hp going to drop my time?
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Assuming " Gone Hollywood " is 4000 pounds ( check the driver side door.. there should be a sticker that tells you the weight of your car.. mine is 4640 pounds.. but again.. mine is the SSEI with all the trims and supercharger ). And assuming that your stock engine produces 205 hp.. plus 25 hp equals 230 hp. It should be 15.091 in 1/4 mile trap. Again.. this is however thru calculations.. not actual conditions.. ( climate.. altitude.. weigt.. attitude ..yadda yadda yadda )

My car would also run 15.6 according to the calculations... I can't break yours down without getting the actual weight of the car... so we'll use mine for example..

240hp = 15.6 stock
300hp = 14.51
350hp = 13.79
400hp = 13.19

After doing these math.. I feel sad now ... I wanted to go at least 13.4.. but that means I have to reach near 400 hp.. humm.. new pulley.. CAI..exhaust.. Rocker Arm..? NAWS would be a last resort for me. ( other than loosing some weight of course.. but I like all the toys in the car.. :pimp: )
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Drifter, the drivers side door sticket is the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, not the weight of the car. It is the total weight the car can carry (passengers etc) including the weight of the car itself. If you want to know just the weight of the car go look on Edmunds.com or some other information site. A '95 SE weighs in at 3500lbs or so.

Tamara I doubt you will get the much more power from a hood-scoop, Ram-Air is more of a marketing thing than any real power adder. There will be little to no difference between it and a good CAI setup (IMHO).

For the HP they have, our cars do well at the 1/4, because they have so much torque. I take the HP to 1/4 calculators with a grain of salt.
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Drifter, the drivers side door sticket is the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, not the weight of the car. It is the total weight the car can carry (passengers etc) including the weight of the car itself. If you want to know just the weight of the car go look on Edmunds.com or some other information site. A '95 SE weighs in at 3500lbs or so.

Tamara I doubt you will get the much more power from a hood-scoop, Ram-Air is more of a marketing thing than any real power adder. There will be little to no difference between it and a good CAI setup (IMHO).

For the HP they have, our cars do well at the 1/4, because they have so much torque. I take the HP to 1/4 calculators with a grain of salt.
really?? The car is around 3500 -3700 pounds ?? I can haul over 2 tonnes of crap ?? Still not enough for my fat sister.. ha ha ha... just kiddin... ok.. let me redo the calculation based on 3700 pounds

205hp = 15.29
240hp = 14.50
300hp = 13.46
350hp = 12.78
400hp = 12.22

OK.. that seems more reasonable.. I have to reach at least 300hp...( can't have more than enough though Tee hee )
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Out of my own curiousity I checked both Edmonds and my drivers door. The drivers door states a GVWR weight of 4642lbs and Edmunds rates the car at 3691lbs ('95 SSEi by the way). The engine on this year puts out 225hp @ 5000 rpm and 275ft-lbs. @ 3200 rpm.

Just for an idea, since I have never done a timed 1/4, what should I be looking forward too on the time slip?
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Well a 449hp 2000 Bonneville ran 12.9ish. It is about 300 pounds heavier than a 92-95 Bonneville. (Correct me if I am wrong) So 400hp should put you in the 12'*. Nice and fast. Now the best deal would be 500hp and then you would leave a mark most would not forget. Just remember there is always someone faster. Our cars are cruisers and a cruiser with 400hp is a very decent car. All I care about is eating vettes. If you want to be the fastest get a little Suzuki rocket! Actually with a Northstar I think I can get the magic 9'* out of a Bonneville but I could get that out of most cars with a 7-800hp Northstar.

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ssei95 Expect times around 14.8. Again.. this is thru Math.. and doesn't account for all the variables..

Speedguy.. What kinda power increase do you think I can get from a CAI.. Exhaust.. Smaller */C Pulley ( 3.4 maybe 3.0 if it can hold up to normal everyday driving.. I really want to go with 3.0 pulleys ), 180 Thermostat and rocker arms ?? I will agree that these Beast are definite cruisers.. but there'* never a thing called having too much power I'd just like to get the shift kit first to try and bulletproof the tranny.. and obviously I would also want to add a tranny cooler later on too... all these hop-ups are always racing through my mind.. now is just the matter of $$$ ( possibly a NAWS system worse case scenario ).

If you can get a Northstar up to 7-800hp.. what would the estimate pricing be ? Wouldn't the fuel pump and rail need replacing too ? Maybe I'll go that route..
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Yes on the Northstar.

Lets put it this way, go to the thrasher site and dig around and you will find a Monte Carol build up and a ton of info. Now the big deal is street legal and lots of HP. my guess is 300hp with our units still smog legal I figure thatí* about as good as it will get with a l67 (sc 3.8l). With a Northstar I can get 400hp and still call it smog legal, now add a turbo after you get it smogged for racing purposes and once every two years you have to tear it off for smog again. The turbo could net another 100hp. Although there is a sc that is being made for the Northstar that is supposed to be made smog legal. So 4-500 could happen with that engine. The rest of the swap details are kind of in the air and vewy vewy secret. LOL

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heh, i've got to try out some of these new emoticons.

I think I will go with the CAI, and just put the hood scoops on for looks. I took it into a custom shop today and they all but told me it was impossible to put RAM AIR on my car without spending big $$, and even then a CAI would give me the same performance. The only problem with having non-funtional hood scoops is that there are certain people that will call RICE from the tops of their high chairs. I like the look though...but I donno.

I also got the eyebrows done on my car last weekend. A nice boy at the car meet I went to was ging to show me how it was done then just went ahead and did it on me!! lol pictures soon.
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heh, i've got to try out some of these new emoticons.

I think I will go with the CAI, and just put the hood scoops on for looks. I took it into a custom shop today and they all but told me it was impossible to put RAM AIR on my car without spending big $$, and even then a CAI would give me the same performance. The only problem with having non-funtional hood scoops is that there are certain people that will call RICE from the tops of their high chairs. I like the look though...but I donno.

I also got the eyebrows done on my car last weekend. A nice boy at the car meet I went to was ging to show me how it was done then just went ahead and did it on me!! lol pictures soon.
Who cares what other people may say ( about Rice ).. it'* your car.. you like.. you do it.. and for the people that says anything.. A. What the hell are they driving B. Who'* walking again ?? C. Who cares what their friends drive
. If you're main concern is performance.. then yes, a CAI would probably be a lot easier
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