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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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It was given to me as a recommendation to purchase a Chilton'* manual versus a Haynes manual just for reference. The part # I was told is 28200. Is it purely for Pontiac or does it cover: GM Bonneville/Eighty-Eight/LeSabre 1986-1999?

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ISBN-10: 0801989639
ISBN-13: 978-0801989636

Pep Boys has the best local price at $18.99 but I can get it through Amazon for $9.97. I just want to make sure the ISBNs and part numbers are the same. Can anybody clarify? I realize with each printing a different ISBN is issued but I just need it to cover '96 Bonneville.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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I can confirm that the Chiltons is helpful..the only thing the haynes will do is help you start a fire. (with it)

As for the IBMSN#....what is one. ?
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Thanks. The ISBN # is what the retail places use to track product on the shelves. It changes every year as they add a model.

What I really need to know is whether is just covers pontiac or includes olds and buick. The old BOP trifecta.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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The Chilton'* manual for your car covers all makes and models that correspond to the chassis makeup (H-Car, I think), so yes, it includes the other makes besides Pontiac. Your question is correct. LeSabre, Eighty-Eight, Bonneville.

But, all the directions for part removal and installation are segmented for engine size, etc., so it'* fairly simple to follow it.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Thanks so much guys. My car has 241,000 miles on it and it needs to last a lot longer. Every $$ I can save helps.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Since you already have your answer, I don't feel to bad straying off-topic a bit. I noticed you referenced BOP, which struck me as being an OEM industry specific acronym. I remember it well from the early '90s. There was also BOC out of Lansing for quite a while. I take it you've worked in the industry in the past?
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I kno wthey are more money, but www.helminc.com has the factory service manuals, and these things have everything in them to detail. You can find these on e-bay for relatively cheap usually.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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I'm sorry. I just can't justify $135 for the Factory Manuals, I couldn't locate any on eBay used.

My BOP reference was from my other car I used to have - 1966 GTO
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The Haynes manual leaves a lot to be desired. It covers close to a 20 year span of Buick Olds & Pontiac of this body type. Every Illustration is labled "typical" and none of them really seemed right for my 96 SE.

I have had Haynes for every other car I've owned and found them to be very helpful in most cases...but I would save my money if I had it to do over on this book.



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both the haynes and chiltons are made by the same company.

i prefer neither. they tend to be very vague on too many topics.

i recently got the factory service manual and the electrical systems book from my library for 30 bucks each.
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