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Old 09-09-2005, 09:35 PM
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well im might wanta add this. i DONT want an ssei, yes you all heard me correct. i do not want an ssei. i dont want pay the extra fuel cost it adds. im looking at an se and a sle. they are both kick azz cars but it all comes down to price i guess.
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the SLE was offered with all the options of the SSEI except the SC....i sould so hit the SLE.... (of course)
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struts, tie rod ends, sway bar links/bushings, tps,
4 new tires, alignment. and something else i dont remeber what. but thats alota money i just put into this car.
Most of that is just routine maintenance. I don't know how many miles you have on the beast, but if it'* more than 100k that'* pretty normal stuff. Maybe this will make you feel better: When i got my car i had to 1. Rebuild the transmission 2. Replace the front tires 3. Replace front pads and rotors 4. Replace rear shoes 5. Replace passenger side caliper 6. Replace BOTH rear springs and sway bar endlinks. That'* about all i can think of now, and that was just to get it ROAD WORTHY. About a month after that it blew a rear brake like, then a week later another line (about 6 inches farther forward). Then two weeks ago it blew an ignition module on me. This is all in the period of 1500 miles and 6 months. Feel better yet? I'd say fix the stuff that'* wrong and keep it a while longer, you have a great looking car there.

IF you are set on a newer car, there are a lot of 92-99 (i prefer 96-99) SE'* and SLE'* out there on ebay and such, keep your eye out and you'll find something that meets your fancy.
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Originally Posted by its840
well im might wanta add this. i DONT want an ssei, yes you all heard me correct. i do not want an ssei. i dont want pay the extra fuel cost it adds. im looking at an se and a sle. they are both kick azz cars but it all comes down to price i guess.
Not to mention the extra insurance associated with having a SC! Make sure you get quotes on insurance before you proceed.

As posted earlier, it does seem that the 2000+ cars are smaller. It'* the darndest thing because I don't think they are supposed to be. That was the first thing I noticed when I test drove an '04.

My '04 cost 15,995. It was 8 months old when I bought it and had 14K miles on it. Was part of an Alamo/National fleet. I made the dealer give me 2,500 for the 1995 SE.
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thanks for all the input every one. my car has 147k on it. so its starting to get up there.
i checked out a 2000 i beleive and i wansnt to impressed. but they did have a monte ss there that was slick but way to expensive. but the bonne didnt have leather. and they was asking way to much.
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Well I had a 94 Bonneville which I was very happy with, but because it was getting up in miles(115,000) and I was planning a long commute to school, I sold it and got a 03 SLE. I love the car. It'* your call. I feel like I sat lower in the 94. The 03 is alot faster.(extra 35 hp) Better handling. Thanks to 17 inch wheels that the SLE comes with. The dashboard on my 03 kicks a$$!!.Love the DIC. The seats are different but I have no complaints with my 03. It'* still like sitting in my living room just like my 94. I like the fact that the radio antenna is built into the glass on my 03 as compared to a regular power antenna on my 94.
SOME SHORTCOMINGS OF THE 00+ AS COMPARED TO MY 94.

1. Overhead console.(hardtops) The car gets remodeled in 00 and this remains unchanged..
2. Glovebox. The glovebox in the 00+ is almost unreachable from the drivers seat.(I'm 5'7)
3. Temperature gage. My 94 had a functional temp. gage. My 03, it'* no better than an idiot light. The gage goes to 200 and never moves. Useless.

Some other pieces of info: My 94 use to leak water into the trunk and the front passenger side on really hard rainy days. So far this is not an issue on my 03. (keeping fingers crossed). My 94 I use to go through a quart and half of oil every 3,000 miles. Not one drop with my 03, plus I think the intake manifold gasket issue is resolved with the 00+. I had to replace it on my 94.
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Originally Posted by MikeD
Well I had a 94 Bonneville which I was very happy with, but because it was getting up in miles(115,000) and I was planning a long commute to school, I sold it and got a 03 SLE. I love the car. It'* your call. I feel like I sat lower in the 94. The 03 is alot faster.(extra 35 hp) Better handling. Thanks to 17 inch wheels that the SLE comes with. The dashboard on my 03 kicks a$$!!.Love the DIC. The seats are different but I have no complaints with my 03. It'* still like sitting in my living room just like my 94. I like the fact that the radio antenna is built into the glass on my 03 as compared to a regular power antenna on my 94.
SOME SHORTCOMINGS OF THE 00+ AS COMPARED TO MY 94.

1. Overhead console.(hardtops) The car gets remodeled in 00 and this remains unchanged..
2. Glovebox. The glovebox in the 00+ is almost unreachable from the drivers seat.(I'm 5'7)
3. Temperature gage. My 94 had a functional temp. gage. My 03, it'* no better than an idiot light. The gage goes to 200 and never moves. Useless.

Some other pieces of info: My 94 use to leak water into the trunk and the front passenger side on really hard rainy days. So far this is not an issue on my 03. (keeping fingers crossed). My 94 I use to go through a quart and half of oil every 3,000 miles. Not one drop with my 03, plus I think the intake manifold gasket issue is resolved with the 00+. I had to replace it on my 94.
However, if you read through the '00 and newer threads, you will see that there have been UIM failures on the 2000+ cars.
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Mike, did you have a 94 or 95? Your signature and posting don't match.

00'* have had the UIM failure, but Mike stated GASKETS. That isn't a 'problem' until about 120,000 miles.

00+ seem to have more leaks than the previous gen, and they're alot harder to track down and fix. Don't forget the rear window regulators either.

If you're going after go-fast mods, you're better off with the lighter 92-99 generation. They also don't have the weight transfer problem on launch.

If you want the frills, and don't need as much room, and have enough money set aside for two window regulators, go for the 00+.
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Originally Posted by willwren
Mike, did you have a 94 or 95? Your signature and posting don't match.

00'* have had the UIM failure, but Mike stated GASKETS. That isn't a 'problem' until about 120,000 miles.

00+ seem to have more leaks than the previous gen, and they're alot harder to track down and fix. Don't forget the rear window regulators either.

If you're going after go-fast mods, you're better off with the lighter 92-99 generation. They also don't have the weight transfer problem on launch.

If you want the frills, and don't need as much room, and have enough money set aside for two window regulators, go for the 00+.
Hmmm :?: Where in my sig. and post don't I match? I never mentioned a 95. I owned a 94 Bonneville for 3 years before I sold it and got my 03 SLE.
On My 94, I needed the intake manifod gasket replaced because I was losing coolant. I thought thats what everybody means by UIM failure. It seems to me that this issue was resolved for the 00+. Maybe I'm wrong.
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No, the UIM failure is on the L36 (95 and newer) only. And no, it appears that it was NOT properly fixed.

Your gasket failure is not related.


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