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Old 09-29-2003, 02:40 PM   #31
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I'm confused... How can someone judge a car, if they have never driven one. A few messages back, someone said that the SHO'* are sucked out or something, or no a ***** *** car. If you have ever driven one, you wouldn't be thinking that.

Ford didn't "fail" at making an engine for the SHO. They gave a contract to Yamaha because Yamaha knows what they are doing in terms of getting power, out of relatively small engines. Pontiac does this them selves, and i do prefer Pontiac over Ford, but if given the choice, i would revert to an SHO because they, in my opinion, are faster then a stock SSEi.

I say this, because we used to OWN one and I actually can reinforce my own opinion, and not base it on someone else'* opinion of it..


Woo-hoo!!! Finally a voice of reason!!! :P
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gas and emission restriction that why

hey do you guys know why the gxp line is so hush hush wath does pontiac
not what us to know
They have emissions on the Windsor block, and the same emissions on the Cleveland block, already a proven block, would stil yeild a much more powerful engine. Stick the Cleveland block in a 'Stang with the same emissions that the Cobra R has, and you'll get many more horses and especially torque than it currently has now. That'* what I think. That'* my story, and I'm stickin' to it!!
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I'm confused... How can someone judge a car, if they have never driven one. A few messages back, someone said that the SHO'* are sucked out or something, or no a ***** *** car. If you have ever driven one, you wouldn't be thinking that.

Ford didn't "fail" at making an engine for the SHO. They gave a contract to Yamaha because Yamaha knows what they are doing in terms of getting power, out of relatively small engines. Pontiac does this them selves, and i do prefer Pontiac over Ford, but if given the choice, i would revert to an SHO because they, in my opinion, are faster then a stock SSEi.

I say this, because we used to OWN one and I actually can reinforce my own opinion, and not base it on someone else'* opinion of it..
yes that is true
this is why i talk about these thing on this web page
most of the people speek their mind and that is what i want
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Y'know, Ford is just a sell-out. Ford used to be good muscle and durable. The '71 Boss 351 Mustang ran circles around the GTO stock, pulling 13.4 in a 1/4 right out of the factory on a 3800 lb. chassis. Now, they ain't got nuthin. Used to be a Ford man...
I am a huge GTO fan, and I have to say it really depends on what version of the GTO you ordered. RA IV was a good (rare) engine as was the 455. However, DeLorean didn't believe in rear anti-sway bars so the '71 Boss probably could run literal circles around a '71 GTO. LOL
That'* the thing. I remember reading car magazines in that year, and it really blew the market outta the water that a 351 was eating big block 455'*. I saw one magazine that had a lineup with the top o' da line GTO, the 351 Boss Mustang, and a Camaro and one other car (can't remember), and the 'Stang was .5 sec faster than the GTO and a full second faster than the Camaro, although they both were putting out more hp'* than the 'Stang. It'* all about how you transfer that power to the ground.

Oh, I think the fourth car was a mopar with a 440 six-pack.
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i wounder how the new gto would do against the gt cobra and the dodge viper
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I realize that Ford puts out some real duds, and they had to get Yamaha'* help for the SHO, but what about the new GT40???!

That thing is a monster!! 500something horsepower! I don't even remember the torque right now, but they're definitely showing that when they want to, they can build a killer car.

Droool...
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i wounder how the new gto would do against the gt cobra and the dodge viper
Not too well. The new GTO only does 0-60 in 5.3 seconds (according to the latest Car & Driver and Road & Track magazines). In the same Road and track they tested a Hennessey 650R Viper. It showed it'* 0-60 compared to the stock Viper. The 650R does 0-60 in 3..0 seconds FLAT. The stock Viper does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. That translates into alot more hp and alot more torque along with alot more traction (aka Viper has alot more rubber on the drive wheels) than the GTO.
As for as the Cobra R I have never seen any stats, but from what I've heard about them they are not to be taken lightly. Supposed to have an easy 100 hp over the GTO, but then again the Cobra is supercharged and the GTO isn't (Pontiac is supposed to be coming out with an even more hi-po GTO next year -wonder how long until they supercharge it?).
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GTO 350HP prob get into 4'* easy.
Cobra R 390HP
Viper 500HP actually stock is a 4.x second range car as well

Keep in mind, when they test new cars, stock, they test them like how they're used in real life. They don't break torque, or anything, or keep it in D. Do they all have manuals?

GTO has the corvette engine in it...
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GTO 350HP prob get into 4'* easy.
Cobra R 390HP
Viper 500HP actually stock is a 4.x second range car as well

Keep in mind, when they test new cars, stock, they test them like how they're used in real life. They don't break torque, or anything, or keep it in D. Do they all have manuals?

GTO has the corvette engine in it...
first off it'* no longer a Cobra R, the Cobra R had a naturally asperated engine, the current Cobra has 390 HP and a 6 speed manual and let me tell you, it moves...

the Viper is a super car in terms of speed and runs 0-60 with a good drive in 3.8-3.9 seconds

the GTO, well... it just isn't gonna hold up against ethier of these cars, and it'* the only one you can get with an automatic transmission
 
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come on give the gto some love and it will put whose car in thier place

PONTAC FOR EVER
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