For the time being, Chris is going to send me a rotor plate after he modifies it so the two seals are the same size. I'll have a mutant Bearings and seals will be installed when I get it, and I'll send him my rotor plate as a core in case another sale comes up before:


For the long-term, he'* going to have a custom seal made for future sales. This applies to the M62 and M90.


A word of warning on the re-assembly of this part of the rebuild. It'* VERY important to set the backlash between the rotors and the backlash between the gears simultaneously, while pressing BOTH gears onto the rotor shafts at the same time. This is going to require a custom jig. My plan is to machine a custom jig that will press the gears on while clearing the 3 coupler pins and both rotor shafts. I'll loan out the jig to anyone who wants it for shipping costs alone, or provide a mechanical drawing of the jig if so requested.

Could these be the seals we need? This place has them for $20 + $4 shipping. Not sure how reliable they are...

http://www.texasthunderbirds.com/img/blwr/seal7196.jpg

Those are the OEM style, inferior quality to the ones he kits and sends. He has better quality seals, and is having one custom made for the oddball side.

The proper seals are available with 2-3 days shipping from Texas Thunderbirds. No need to modify parts whatsoever. Now the rest of the story:

My initial order of parts from www.rollingperformance.com were very timely. It went downhill very fast from that point. Chris sells a FULL rebuild kit, but has never posted guidance on the procedure. This is not a straightforward thing like doing the needle bearings or nosedrive rebuild. I don't reccommend this for anyone to try. Regardless of how much of a gearhead you may think you are.

When we ran into the wrong seal problem, he decided to use a workaround by modifing the rotor plate to fit his seals. This never happened. I discovered the seal problem on April 24th, and have been trying to get either the right seals, or the modified plate he promised me since that time. To this date, I've seen neither, so I ordered the RIGHT seals from Texas Thunderbirds. To make it worse, another member has been waiting for the same thing. Both that member and jr's3800 have been up-to-date on the whole process, and have been included on all recent correspondence.

My specific complaints:

1. Some emails went unanswered for a week. Had to call the owner at work (at his daytime job).

2. Always blames the problems on his machinist. A vendor should take responsibility for his subcontractors, or find another one.

3. Never gave me updates. I always had to initiate contact.


Texas Thunderbirds would get my nod for a bearing/seal provider for the M62 and M90 over Rolling Performance. Rolling Performance is the reason the Zilla was not ready for WCBF05. Pure and simple. For a problem identified on April 24th, this is ridiculous.

In the long run, the whole thing is moot, as this isn't the type of work most people want to tackle. You're better off at the point this needs to be done, by simply replacing the unit with a quality rebuild from www.canadiansuperchargers.com and be CAREFUL of Ebay. Floz is still in business, on his 'dozenth' business name.

Chris, you're a member here, so I'll give you the opportunity and invitation to rebut.

First off Bill, I can't justify it or apologize enough to make up for the time and problems you've had that were directly related to me not being able to deliver parts for you. I am sincerely sorry for that. It was my fault for not thoroughly doing the research for every application that the parts were being sold for. I will be the first to admit that my experience with the earlier generation Eatons is limited and I have mostly only rebuilt M90'*.

Just to give a little backround to everyone, I started Rolling Performance website as a side business while I was working for a distributor and basically did things out of my house. Several local club members with GTP'* had snout bearings go bad on their M90'* which I was able to get bearings so I decided to start selling kits. Since then, I have bought out a company in the bearing and power transmission business and have kind of integrated the Rolling Performance aspect into it, but it is not my main business.
For anyone that owns a business, you would know as I have found out that it can get hectic and busy and I don't get much free time, hence I haven't been active on this forum or any others for that matter in a significant capacity. However, I do have a passion for this which is why I would like to continue to grow within the automotive industry in addition to the industrial business that is 95% of what I do daily.

That being said, for anyone on this forum or anywhere else that has ordered a snout kit, rotor case bearings, or a coupler, I think my track record has proven that I am extremely timely in shipping these parts out. I can assure you that the problems that Bill has had is really an isolated case which I'm fully responsible for. Hopefully, I'll have the chance to help out more here and not be branded as bad vendor for this. I will be trying to get more involved on the board in the future. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns at bgn87@optonline.net.

I will be making a few changes on the website and would also like to extend some sort of discount for Bonneville Club members. I am going to try and make a discount code to enter at the checkout of an order. I will post that when I work it out.

Thanks for stopping by, Chris. I left the door open to you because of your reputation as a business owner, but I was caught in a situation that had I not posted my experiences for other members, I would be remiss in my duties as an Administrator of this Forum.

Good luck, and I'll be ordering another snout kit and more needle bearings soon for another SC. I will never again attempt a full rebuild though. It'* just not worth the trouble.