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Old 12-22-2006, 10:57 AM   #21
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thanks guys... Sorry about the hijack.
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Well, the relay diagram isn't right. But mine is in the relay center he is thinking of. So I know this relay 3 that is supposed to be for the fog lights is wired to the ELC fuse. Does that make my car a LeSabre SSE or a 88 SSE?
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Hotz28, that'* incorrect. The relay is in the maxifuse relay center under the hood. Not in that diagram you posted. I know this from not only my 93, but also from Driverjohn'* 92, which I replace the relay on last winter.
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Hot, can you tell us where you got that information? It'* quite wrong.
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Please don't post information in a topic like this that isn't specific to the Bonneville. Alot of time and in some cases hard-earned money can be wasted.
Thanks, I will keep all the above in mind when posting here and will attach the following disclaimer in future post, if not “Specific to the Bonneville”!

The Information provided here is for educational purposes only. It is not intended to be vehicle specific or to offend anyone!

I fully realize that the relay placement in the pic provided, was not “Bonneville specific”, however it was “H” body generic and could be considered as an option! In addition, I am sure this particular Bonneville was not the only one produced with the ELC relay in the under-dash relay center! In this particular case, it sounds like this car may have been a victim of incest within the “H” body family! Usually, It is better to keep an open mind and Never say Never!

I did not intended to ruffle so many feathers here, however, my suggestion on this particular thread, while not “Specific to the Bonneville”, may have saved some time and frustration and certainly did not “cause hard earned money to be wasted”! With over 45 years of experience on all makes of GM cars, I learned a long time ago to consider all sources of information available from within the same family. If you do not seek other alternatives when troubleshooting, you tend to develop “tunnel vision”!

BTW; I noticed many responses to post here, are based on conjecture when advising what the solution to a problem may be, and are formed from members “similar experience”, rather than actual vehicle specific FSM’*. I am not suggesting that this is a bad thing, in fact, it can be a good thing, if you take all the bits & pieces of information available and start putting the puzzle together, and you will eventually get a clearer view of the whole situation!

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The 92, 93, and 95 FSM'* all call for the ELC relay to be in the same location under the hood. Not in the cabin.

Many of us have FSM'*. When we give advice, it'* often from FSM'* even if not stated.
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I only have one more question, if my ELC relay is where my fog light relay should be and there is nothing where the ELC relay should be...



... where is my fog light relay?
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Anyone have a 92 PA or LeSabre, or Olds 88 FSM? Hardly any of the diagnostics tests are working according to my 92 SSE FSM. I'm hoping it was wired differently.
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Yep, it must be wired differently. I replaced the height sensor because I couldn't think what else to do. And my ELC works again.
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