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Old 04-05-2005, 12:58 PM   #21
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That sounds good.. Yea, Ill look on the Library'* all data system, and I'll post my findings (If any)
Well, it'* like this. The Factory Service Manual does have the exact pinout assignments for each of those connectors listed in Volume 2. You use those diagrams in conjunction with the sections on each individual circuit, so if you're trying to diagnose, say, why you're not getting a Low Fuel warning in the DIC, the Low Fuel Warning wiring diagram would show you what color of wire goes into the DIC and what port number in the connector it uses. However, it won't bother to show all 36 wires in that connector; it'll only show something like "yellow/green goes to port 14 at connector C3" and that kind of thing. The connector diagram at the back of Volume 2 shows you which port number is which on that connector. So you can home in on the answer a couple of different ways, depending on what you need to do.

I think in your case, you need to start with the pinout assignments for connectors C1, C2 and C3 where they emerge from the box you bought, and the colors of the wiring stubs will help to verify which circuit is which. (I am _real_ glad you bothered to cut off the harness plugs and wires and take them with the boxes.)
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Old 04-05-2005, 08:35 PM   #22
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I'm real glad too.. I'm also real glad I'm not a jackass and left them behind.. LOL.. Ill see what I can turn up from the diagrams I have coming from the library (Dad ad to go.. Damn NBody power window motor)
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Okay, I just got me a diagram for the SSE, and some info on the alarms and warnings.. But I dont seem to have it all.. Bsically, I am looking at the diagram that starts at A1 on the left and ends at B8 on the same line.. Is there more to this diagram? All I have is the pin location for the LH Front Door Open input at pin A7.. Let me know If I am missing more... Thanks!
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Okay, I just got me a diagram for the SSE, and some info on the alarms and warnings.. But I dont seem to have it all.. Bsically, I am looking at the diagram that starts at A1 on the left and ends at B8 on the same line.. Is there more to this diagram? All I have is the pin location for the LH Front Door Open input at pin A7.. Let me know If I am missing more... Thanks!
Um, it sounds like you're missing practically everything...

Let'* start with the pinouts for the Adaptive Lamp Monitor, and those three plugs. I've done this as a separate file so we can add this to the TechInfo listings sometime; I'm copying and pasting it in here:

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These are the Adaptive Lamp Monitor Module pinout assignments for the three connector plugs according to the 1993 Service Manual.

Let'* start with connector C1, the single-row gray one. Hold it so the open ports are facing you, vertically, with the index rib (the thing that prevents you from plugging it in the wrong way around) at the top; it should be facing to the right.

NOTE: There is no Port I, Port O or Port Q below. If you're counting down the ports out loud alphabetically, remember to skip I, O and Q or you'll land on the wrong one!

From top to bottom, the ports are:

A - Low beam headlamp output (tan/white)
B - Right Front Park/Turn Lamps output (dark blue/white)
C - Tail Lamps output (1 of 2) (purple)
D - Rear side/marker lamps output (pink)
E - Tail Lamps output (2 of 2) (tan/white)
F - Stop Lamps output (orange)
G - Back-up Lamps output (gray)
H - Right Rear Turn Signal output (dark green/white)
J - Center High Mount Stop Lamp output (light blue/black)
K - Left Rear Turn Signal output (yellow/black)
L - Right Front Park/Side Marker Lamps output (brown/white)
M - Left Front Park/Side Marker Lamps output (tan/black)
N - (no listing)
P - Left Front Park/Turn Lamps (light blue/white)
R - High beam headlamp output (light green/black)

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Now Connector C2, the black one. Hold this vertically as you did with C1, but the index rib should be at the _bottom_ this time, still facing to the right. In general, the unstriped input colors below match to their striped output counterparts in the list above.

NOTE: As with C1, there is no Port I, Port O or Port Q below.

A - High Beam Headlamp input (light green)
B - Left Front Turn Signal input (light blue)
C - (no listing)
D - Front Parking Lamps input (brown)
E - (no listing)
F - Left Rear Turn Signal input (yellow)
G - Stop Lamps input (1 of 2) (light blue)
H - Right Rear Turn Signal input (dark green)
J - Back-up Lamps input (light green)
K - Stop Lamps input (2 of 2) (light blue)
L - (no listing)
M - Rear Park Lamps input (brown)
N - (no listing)
P - Right Front Turn Signal input (dark blue)
R - Low beam Headlamp input (tan)

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Now Connector C3, the two-row gray connector of 8 ports in each row. This handles power supplies and the data connection with the dashboard; it communicates with the Driver Information Center whenever there'* a warning to display. Hold it vertically with the large clip thingy to the right. According to the manual, there are not a lot of wires listed.

Column B is on the left; Column A is on the right, and both are numbered from the bottom up, although I actually find no wires listed for any B ports. The A column listing is here:

A8 - Always-hot Battery voltage (orange); Instrument Panel (I/P) Fuse 11
A7 - Ground (black/white)
A6 - Ignition-switched Battery voltage (pink/black); I/P Fuse 20
A5 - (no listing)
A4 - Serial Data output (white); to instrument cluster Connector C2, Terminal B8
A3 - (no listing)
A2 - Serial Data request (tan); from instrument cluster Connector C2, Terminal B6
A1 - (no listing)
I guess that'll keep you busy for a while. Will see about the DIC pinouts when I get some more free time...
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Thanks Andy.. I do have MORE than that.. And I was reading the diagram worng.. But the ALM pinout will help out A LOT.. Thanks a billion man!
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the ALM pinout will help out A LOT.. Thanks a billion man!
Just a heads-up for you here: The pinout diagram I pasted in above has now been improved (with all wiring colors) and expanded a little, so if you printed that out previously, dump that printout and get a new copy of that message above.
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the ALM pinout will help out A LOT.. Thanks a billion man!
Just a heads-up for you here: The pinout diagram I pasted in above has now been improved (with all wiring colors) and expanded a little, so if you printed that out previously, dump that printout and get a new copy of that message above.
Thanks for the HEADS UP!! lol.. I am currently working on pinning out the entire cluster.. I have the colors broken down, and am now in the process of deciphering on paper what each wire does.. Kinda easy.. Wiring it all into a car that it was never meant to go into is a total other matter, lol..

Thanks for ALL your help, Andy.. Seriously.. That saved me at least an hour of work!
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Thanks for the HEADS UP!! lol.. I am currently working on pinning out the entire cluster.. I have the colors broken down, and am now in the process of deciphering on paper what each wire does.. Kinda easy..
You're talking about a gauge cluster from a... what was it? Celebrity? Anyway, the basic color coding will be the same (e.g. Left Rear signal is Yellow; Right Rear is Green, etc.). Watch out for wires like the tan and white, which are data links between controllers (the ALM and the DIC).

You'll probably have to split some input power wires into multiples for situations like the exterior lighting, which comes from the headlamp switch as a single brown wire, but must branch into several input leads so that the ALM can monitor separate lamps for taillights, markers, front parking, etc.

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Wiring it all into a car that it was never meant to go into is a total other matter, lol..
Well, you go, dude. We'll be back here hiding under the workbench in case of explosions...
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Thats the only difference.. THe Lumina, all the brake warning systems are tan/wht.. Otherwise, it all looks the same.. I have everything pinned out except for 5 or 6 on Cluster C1 Row A and row B.. I don't have my progress in front of me since I left it at work last night.. But hey, Im there in like 2 hours, so I'll grab it.. Anyway, you KNOW there will be an explosion.. That'* half the fun of working on ANY FWD GM!! lol Thanks a billion!
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As my friend John says. Get it all together and give it the smoke test.

Smoke Test: Putting the power to something you've just worked on while praying, chanting and hoping like hell you don't see any smoke come out.
Smoke Theory: Everything contains smoke. It will work fine until you let the smoke out. Moral of Theory: Don't let the smoke out.

Would it be easier to locate a harness for the donor vehicle and then get a ton of heat shrink tubing to lengthen or shorten the wiring as needed?
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