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Old 01-05-2006, 01:04 PM   #11
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Ahem..there'* a mounting plate in that box of goodies sitting about 3 feet to your right.
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Thats some of what I was thinking about....lol

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Well, bummer! :( At some point, I realized the Buick is not my car to modify. And the yard would not warrant the used L36 coils if I installed them in the LN3 'cuz they had never heard of it, and didn't believe me that it would work. (Could it have been the way I was dressed?) Plus - I would have had to destroy a saleable L-27 coil / ICM setup to get the plate and bolts and was not up for paying for two to get one @ $45/ea

Between $90 with no warranty and $45 with, it was no contest.

So, this swap will have to wait 'til I own an LN3 or the owner is up to trying it at his own risk and expense. (This may happen soon, as I may buy this Buick from him.)

Thanks for the help anyway, guys.

I did test the coils in the yard before pulling the magnavox replacements and got:
10.6, 10.5 and 10.7. Hope this was the cause of the no-start cold.

Will let you know soon.
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Well, bummer! :( At some point, I realized the Buick is not my car to modify. And the yard would not warrant the used L36 coils if I installed them in the LN3 'cuz they had never heard of it, and didn't believe me that it would work. (Could it have been the way I was dressed?) Plus - I would have had to destroy a saleable L-27 coil / ICM setup to get the plate and bolts and was not up for paying for two to get one @ $45/ea

Between $90 with no warranty and $45 with, it was no contest.

So, this swap will have to wait 'til I own an LN3 or the owner is up to trying it at his own risk and expense. (This may happen soon, as I may buy this Buick from him.)

Thanks for the help anyway, guys.

I did test the coils in the yard before pulling the magnavox replacements and got:
10.6, 10.5 and 10.7. Hope this was the cause of the no-start cold.

Will let you know soon.
You need a good U Pull It like we have here in Florida... Cheap I tell ya... Cheap...

I have had a couple of the Magnavox coil packs fail... Not a pretty thing either... Usually its one coil alone that goes bad... I have even replaced the stock ICM with a bran new AC Delco/Magnavox ICM at $175... That was way Before Bonneville Club, and way before the fact that we learned that the Type 2 swap was more than possible... Most don't believe that it will work..

The parts places locally told my friend with the 91 Park Ave that it was not possible... He told them that he believed it was as he rememberd a friend of his doing it to his 91 3800... They told him it was not possible and would not work... I opened my hood and told my friend to look... He said Oh *&*^ thats right you were the one who told me it would work...

The main reason my friend wanted the type 2 is he feels his type one is getting weak.. Even he told me I know the type 2'* fire hotter thats why I want one on my car... So he too is looking for a Type 2 for a swap.... If I make it to daytona I'll have to pick one up for him... LOL

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Well I put in the junkyard coil pack and ICM and it fired up instantly (still 30*F here)
Took the car for a ride and it runs and shifts really well. This LN3 has a better (quicker) throttle response than my L36 or my L67. I doubt it would beat the SSEi in race, but it is so tight off the line, I may just have to buy it! It only has 93K miles on it.

Gonna change the name of the post to help with hard start searches.

Thanks to all for the help.
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Well I put in the junkyard coil pack and ICM and it fired up instantly (still 30*F here)
Took the car for a ride and it runs and shifts really well. This LN3 has a better (quicker) throttle response than my L36 or my L67. I doubt it would beat the SSEi in race, but it is so tight off the line, I may just have to buy it! It only has 93K miles on it.

Gonna change the name of the post to help with hard start searches.

Thanks to all for the help.
I have noticed the same... My LN3 is more responsive than my L36... And it wouldn't win aginst the L36 but that LN3 sure is a torquey little monkey...

I believe that the THM440-T4(4T60) had a converter with less stall than the Newer L27/67/L36... Plus the torque from the LN3 was produced way down, so as soon as you tap the throttle the torque is instant... You should hear it groan around at 50 mph in OD... I love it....LOL

Its may be an older motor, but they are known for their durability and longevity

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Was this responsiveness only after updating the coils?
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Was this responsiveness only after updating the coils?
I did not update the coils.

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Well, bummer! :( At some point, I realized the Buick is not my car to modify. And the yard would not warrant the used L36 coils if I installed them in the LN3 'cuz they had never heard of it, and didn't believe me that it would work. (Could it have been the way I was dressed?) Plus - I would have had to destroy a saleable L-27 coil / ICM setup to get the plate and bolts and was not up for paying for two to get one @ $45/ea

Between $90 with no warranty and $45 with, it was no contest.

So, this swap will have to wait 'til I own an LN3 or the owner is up to trying it at his own risk and expense. (This may happen soon, as I may buy this Buick from him.)
The updated coils are supposed to improve the performance of the L27 and LN3, but in this case we're discussing the throttle response of the stock LN3. For me, they are really more fun to drive around town because of that quick feel.
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Then they are merely more responsive naturally. Thanks
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