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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 10:59 PM
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One thing that has always bothered me. On all my other cars the pressure goes on when you turn on the key. This car it does not. It stays at 0. Its always hard to start. Takes a while of turning it over. It not pissing the gas out to the engine fast enough. And when it does start the psi slowly goes up. Not jumps up to 38 right away. 'Will start at about 20 and over a ten second or whatever period it raises to 38. If I shoot gas into it manually it fires fast. It will mostly burn that up and stall shortly.
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 11:08 PM
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Also for the regulator, the psi goes up when removing vac line and there is not fuel in the vac line it must be good.
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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 12:50 AM
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On all my other cars the pressure goes on when you turn on the key. This car it does not. It stays at 0. Its always hard to start. Takes a while of turning it over.
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And when it does start the psi slowly goes up. Not jumps up to 38 right away. 'Will start at about 20 and over a ten second or whatever period it raises to 38. If I shoot gas into it manually it fires fast. It will mostly burn that up and stall shortly.
Sounds like a bad fuel pump relay.
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Old Apr 20, 2021 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CathedralCub
Sounds like a bad fuel pump relay.
I did switch the fuel relay with the horn relay, same kind of relay, and it did the same thing. But the relay would be for the pump, and the pump is not tied to the car system in any way now. So how can a relay affect the pump if its not in anyway going to the pump? Pump is ran separately directly to a separate car battery. I cut the wires by the back seat from the pump and ran them directly to a battery because I was getting 8.25 volts at the pump from the car and is beyond my experience on how to find and fix shorts or this type of wiring problem.
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Old Apr 21, 2021 | 01:28 AM
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Another option, you may be able to get more $ for scrap metal @ a crusher than the car is worth!
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Old Apr 21, 2021 | 10:31 AM
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Another option, you may be able to get more $ for scrap metal @ a crusher than the car is worth!
obviously. But now days you get what a hundred or so?
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Old Apr 21, 2021 | 09:18 PM
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This is some kind of pain in the *** problem. I was thinking that in roughly 12 decades of auto manufacturing and keeping in mind nothing at any time is easy, we have gotten so complex and complicated that they can get you to a point where you want to simply give up, not even necessarily due to money but more the aggravation and vast amount of time spent. I mean I'm all up for the challenge but it gets to a point of needing to be an electrical engineer, master mechanic, fabricator, auto restorer, auto historian, and designer. And the problem with OBD 1 is that you don't get great communication and I've seen many times with OBD 2 clues but not definitive information. Its like we live in a time with immense amounts of unmanageable information where very few people can put all of the pieces together.
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Old Apr 21, 2021 | 11:58 PM
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I did switch the fuel relay with the horn relay, same kind of relay, and it did the same thing. But the relay would be for the pump, and the pump is not tied to the car system in any way now. So how can a relay affect the pump if its not in anyway going to the pump? Pump is ran separately directly to a separate car battery. I cut the wires by the back seat from the pump and ran them directly to a battery because I was getting 8.25 volts at the pump from the car and is beyond my experience on how to find and fix shorts or this type of wiring problem.
So with the battery hooked in like this, do you get twelve volts at the pump?
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Old Apr 22, 2021 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CathedralCub
So with the battery hooked in like this, do you get twelve volts at the pump?
Its a 12v battery with going directly to the pump. How could it be anything but 12v?
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Old Apr 22, 2021 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 1985 supra
Its a 12v battery with going directly to the pump. How could it be anything but 12v?
To ask that shows you don't understand electrical systems. Until you actually measure it WHILE cranking the engine you will go in circles.
While cranking!!!!!!!!
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