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Old 04-23-2007, 06:06 PM   #1
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Since I don't have the budget, my son Mick has offered to purchase sub(*) for the stock radio. I presently have the stock in dash cd player supplied with the 95 SSEi. Budjet is approximately $350.00 US.


Question #1 What is the best sub or subs that you would recomend to not only suppliment the stock stereo, but also be compatible with a upgrade should the budger allow in the future?

Question #2 What type of wiring do I need to connect the sub(*)?

Question #3 Do I need an addition amp, to power these subs?

Question #4 Can I have a seperate switch to turn the subs off?

Question #5 Do I need a compartment or case to store them in?

Question #6 Where is the best location to place them?


Here is a picture of the stock stereo cd, I appologise for the poor picture quality.


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you're not gonna get much for 350, but it'* possible. Guessing that you only want something to improve the bass, and not to win any SPL competitions or anything close to that...
let'* go through the basics:
8 AWG wire kit: 70 bucks
Pioneer 800w 12": 85 bucks
Box (if ya don't feel like building your own): 100 bucks-ish
Pioneer 250w (sure, w/e, haha) class AB amp: 180
even then, it'* over 400. and that is, at best, a mediocre system. I'd start saving your money

oh, and your questions:
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Question #1 What is the best sub or subs that you would recomend to not only suppliment the stock stereo, but also be compatible with a upgrade should the budger allow in the future?
With that price range, anything but Dual or Pyle
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Question #2 What type of wiring do I need to connect the sub(*)?
8 AWG, usually. You might be able to get away with a 10 AWG
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Question #3 Do I need an addition amp, to power these subs?
Yup
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Question #4 Can I have a seperate switch to turn the subs off?
Not remotely
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Question #5 Do I need a compartment or case to store them in?
Yup, you're probably looking looking at a sealed. There'* a way to determine which kind, but I don't think it'* necessary in this situation
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Question #6 Where is the best location to place them?
the trunk? lol
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I don't like all of petraman'* answers so I am going to run through this.

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Budjet is approximately $350.00 US.

Question #1 What is the best sub or subs that you would recomend to not only suppliment the stock stereo, but also be compatible with a upgrade should the budger allow in the future?
I personally would suggest a TC Sounds DB 500 or TC 1000. You are looking at 100-150 depending which sub you chose. You likely wont need to upgrade for a LONG time.
Question #2 What type of wiring do I need to connect the sub(*)?
If you chose an amp with high level inputs then you dont need anything but the ability to splice into the rear speakers. If you get an amp that does not have high level inputs then you will need a high to low converter.
Question #3 Do I need an addition amp, to power these subs?
Yes you will.
Question #4 Can I have a seperate switch to turn the subs off?
Yes you can. You can make a switch that will turn the subs on and off.
Question #5 Do I need a compartment or case to store them in?
you will need to make a box for the sub to be in. I am going to say sealed would be the best for your application since you probably listen to different types of music and dont want to take up much trunk space.
Question #6 Where is the best location to place them?
In the trunk, facing the back of the car.
the 350 will have to be spent wisely but you can come away with a very decent set up.

What type of music do you listen to? (you and your son)
Are you looking for the really deep lows or just more bass than the stock 6x9'*?
Do you have the ability or know someone locally with some wood tools that can build a box for you?

I built my most recent subwoofer set up for less than 300 dollars, granted I already had the wire (wise purchasing of wire would still keep you under budget), but I am extremely impressed with how it turned out and the sound it makes. I've since found that the buick rattles a lot and I get a lot of looks for driving a buick with a sub.
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I've heard the Pioneers before, and I think they're a good bang for your buck, and IIRC, you can only buy the TC Sounds on the web. I was taking into consideration that he is just looking for a basic upgrade, so I don't really think specifics matter. I know a few people that have used Pioneer subs before, and although you're not gonna get audiophile bass from them, they're very reliable subs. This is just my opinion
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Based on the funds availability, go with something prefab and ready to just put in trunk and hook up and done.

They are not the best, but for $350 its hardly not the worst either..they should sound decent. But its something to grow on.

Go with Bazooka

Here is a prefab box from Circuit City $199 for 2 -10'* and a 300 watt amp. Should give some depth to whatever he listens too. - LINKY

Here is another offer from Circuit City - LINKY

Yet another offer - LINKY

This one looks promising. LINKY <--this is the one I would probably go with. Looks nice and Infinity is a great brand.

Buying from Circuit City they might give you a deal on install as well. Hopefully you have one around you.

But I think you should look for the prefab with built in amplifiers, its easy, no fuss, would give you some bass (depth to your music) and should work.

I would presume, with this, you wouldn't need to upgrade any wiring, the draw would be minimal. Just use good wiring on the install. As far as working with your factory headunit, most likely will not work, you may have to jerry-rig the setup or puchase a aftermarket headunit with pre-amp outs. Again, if you buy Circuit City, they have on-staff installers, and could do the job for cheap, maybe you could work it into your deal.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to go with, show us PICS!!

Or you could go with a 10" tube pre-amped.[/url]
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Based on the funds availability, go with something prefab and ready to just put in trunk and hook up and done.

They are not the best, but for $350 its hardly not the worst either..they should sound decent. But its something to grow on.

Go with Bazooka I hope you are joking

Here is a prefab box from Circuit City $199 for 2 -10'* and a 300 watt amp. Should give some depth to whatever he listens too. - LINKY

Here is another offer from Circuit City - LINKY

Yet another offer - LINKY

This one looks promising. LINKY <--this is the one I would probably go with. Looks nice and Infinity is a great brand.

Buying from Circuit City they might give you a deal on install as well. Hopefully you have one around you.

But I think you should look for the prefab with built in amplifiers, its easy, no fuss, would give you some bass (depth to your music) and should work.

I would presume, with this, you wouldn't need to upgrade any wiring, the draw would be minimal. Just use good wiring on the install. As far as working with your factory headunit, most likely will not work, you may have to jerry-rig the setup or puchase a aftermarket headunit with pre-amp outs. Again, if you buy Circuit City, they have on-staff installers, and could do the job for cheap, maybe you could work it into your deal. You absolutely can connect them to a stock headunit. As long as the amp has high level inputs, which most cheaper amps do, it will connect no problem. I've been there done that. Or if the amp doesn't have high level inputs they make converter boxes to go from high level inputs to low level. Sure an aftermarket HU would be better but there is not a NEED for the HU to begin with.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to go with, show us PICS!!

Or you could go with a 10" tube pre-amped.[/url]
The only decent amp/sub combos are the mtx and the basslink. Although I doubt he really would want either of them. As a teen I know the basslink was on my list of choices but got quickly crossed off. It also requires you to almost completely start over if you ever want to upgrade.
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How about I open this up by asking what is a decent price to pay to get the type of bass response that we would just drop our chin in awwwwww? Keep in mind that it'* still the stock stereo.


Are we talking another $100.00 US.

By the way Mick and I thanks you for all your responses.
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How about I open this up by asking what is a decent price to pay to get the type of bass response that we would just drop our chin in awwwwww? Keep in mind that it'* still the stock stereo.


Are we talking another $100.00 US.

By the way Mick and I thanks you for all your responses.
Atleast a few hundred more for a slight to decent jaw dropping of someone who doesn't have much audio experience. Atleast a grand more for a real good jaw dropping experience. And at that point you would need a HU and a new front speaker set up to keep up with the subs.
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That'* exactly what I was asking for but Holly Crap, a grand more US.............that'* like a gazillion Canadian. Holly Fricken Crap, the sad part of it is Mick would spend his College money to buy it, but that ain't happen'in.
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OK, the box store are great , but to me word of mouth from freinds is great pick up a used amp, some subs, later when upgreade pass the sus along to frined or other car and use amp for mids.... but not everyone has that so Ebay we go and have had great success on there, I am sure there are some memebers on here that have some stuff to sell.... Anyone have something to sell?????
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