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Old 11-11-2010, 02:19 PM   #21
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I dunno. 2) 10'* on the deck?. I think it would be over kill and getting into rattling territory. I think the square 10 in the middle of the Stock speakers hits "just right" . But its your money and ears. People at the place I got the paint job and suspension thought I was crazy. The we powered it up and they all shook their heads and admitted it did sound good.
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No no I meant originally my plan was a square 10 in the deck like yours but now I've scratched the deck idea entirely and decided for two 10s in the trunk lol. I want to put them facing the rear seats and pretty close to the back of them also. I'll have to research boxes before I do it because a friend told me that a non-ported box will give more bass while a ported one is louder? I'm lost when it comes to audio so expect a thread before I do it lol. I just want the bass, not ear-splitting hits.
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That is really nice John! I thought about doing that with 2 10'* in the rear trunk lid with an old car. It wouldnt be feasable with my 15" FI tho. for one... the cut out diameter of my sub exceeds the depth of my rear deck, and also my sub would flex everything. So much work would have to be done to brace and seal everything up... I am ok with no trunk space... my girlfriend might have a differant view tho. lol
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No no I meant originally my plan was a square 10 in the deck like yours but now I've scratched the deck idea entirely and decided for two 10s in the trunk lol. I want to put them facing the rear seats and pretty close to the back of them also. I'll have to research boxes before I do it because a friend told me that a non-ported box will give more bass while a ported one is louder? I'm lost when it comes to audio so expect a thread before I do it lol. I just want the bass, not ear-splitting hits.
Huh??? A non ported box will give more bass but a ported box will be louder???

Subs are generally designed for a purpose. Some ar SQ (sound quality), SPL (sound pressure level, loudness), or SQ & SPL.

Ported boxes are tuned to a specific frequency (hz) at which they will be the loudest. Any deviation from the port frequency will be loud, just not as loud. The port allows these subs to be louder than sealed box subs. Due to the nature of their design, they are larger than sealed box subs. Subs will also be more loose due to there being no air resistance as a result of the port. Ported boxes are designed more for SPL.

Sealed box subs will be smaller for the same kind of sub, and they will sound more accurate. They will not hit low notes as loud as a ported box sub. Because there is no port, the subs will sound more accurate and more "tight" than the same sub in a ported box.

Subs almost always come with instructions and specifications as to the cubic capacity of the boxes in which they should be installed. My 15" Hifonics Olympus sub, 1600W RMS, is an SPL only sub. It is designed for ported boxes and will not work well in a sealed box. Its not a tight sub, its not an accurate sub (by comparison), but it hits hard enough to make it a little more difficult for you to breathe in the car.

By comparison, I also have a 300W RMS Kenwood sub in a sealed box, that sounds more accurate and more proper than this hifonics sub. I switch them out depending on my mood, plus I got the Kenwood sub for $30 shipped brand new. Should have bought two.

The size of the box you put a sub in is important. If you put a sealed box sub in a very large box, it will not sound as tight or accurate as it would in a properly sized box. It will sound more...loose. If you put it in too small of a box, it will not be as loud.

I personally stay away from Kicker products. I believe their square subs are inefficient, overpriced, and very loose. There are many subs that give much better bang for the buck in terms of SQ and SPL than a kicker sub that aren't necessarily name brand subs. The same can be said of their components and 6x9'* (ask Anthony - Addicted to Eaton). I once had a Kicker L5 and was very disappointed in what it offered and sounded like compared to the Alpine R12 that replaced it.
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Yea told ya I know nothing. That was the purpose of the question mark after the statement lol. Thanks for the info though X. So a sealed box will give more "feel" whereas a ported box will be louder? Am I reading that right?
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Yea told ya I know nothing. That was the purpose of the question mark after the statement lol. Thanks for the info though X. So a sealed box will give more "feel" whereas a ported box will be louder? Am I reading that right?
What do you mean by feel? The kick in the pants feel?

A sealed box will sound more accurate, more tight, more responsive. A ported box will sound more loose, more loud. How hard it actually hits in either enclosure depends on how powerful of a sub and amp you use.
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What do you mean by feel? The kick in the pants feel?

A sealed box will sound more accurate, more tight, more responsive. A ported box will sound more loose, more loud. How hard it actually hits in either enclosure depends on how powerful of a sub and amp you use.
Oh ok so the box doesn't make a difference in how much feel (as in the vibrations and such). Hmmm I'd definitely go with a sealed box then. I want more response and I also like to hear the lyrics instead of the subs being loud as heck
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Oh ok so the box doesn't make a difference in how much feel (as in the vibrations and such). Hmmm I'd definitely go with a sealed box then. I want more response and I also like to hear the lyrics instead of the subs being loud as heck
Right, generally for rock and music that has tight and short bass beats like techno, a sealed box will be better. If you're playing hip hop/rap, a ported box will hit louder.

Of course, this is mostly in regard to car audio, and is a generalization. You will find ported 12" subs that handle upwards of 1000W that will sound tighter and cleaner than a cheaper sealed 12" sub. My comparison is mostly for subs in the same class and price range.
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Facing the subs toward the back of the seats wont make it louder. plus if ur box is ported u might get port distortion and what not. bass is omnidirectional so it helps to have the bass bounce off a few surfaces before it hits ur ears. thats why everyone faces the subs to the back of the trunk. I tried facing my sub up toward the rear deck lid and it wasnt as loud as when facing the taillights.
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Right, generally for rock and music that has tight and short bass beats like techno, a sealed box will be better. If you're playing hip hop/rap, a ported box will hit louder.

Of course, this is mostly in regard to car audio, and is a generalization. You will find ported 12" subs that handle upwards of 1000W that will sound tighter and cleaner than a cheaper sealed 12" sub. My comparison is mostly for subs in the same class and price range.
Rock and country here. I plan on using either Alpine or Pioneer so nothing cheap is going to be used whatsoever, also the reason it won't be done for a long time to come
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