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Old 12-17-2003, 09:05 PM   #21
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i'm still a very firm believer in 4 volt preouts. If money isn't a huge issue, i'd look into either at Pioneer DEH-P7500MP at
http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?...0mp&svbname=30
Wow that'* a great price! It'* $350 at Crutchfield or other omparable stores. That may be what I will get. I was already planning on spending $200, so that isn't too much more. Thanks!
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2.2 would work fine.
I like to just spend the extra bucks and get the 4 volt.
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:07 PM   #23
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ya it'll probably be a little under 250 shipped

i spent $297 on a deck that would have cost me over $420 in Ultimate Electronics
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:02 AM   #24
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Guess i'll just have to wait for people who haven't mounted their tweeters in the stock location to agree with me

I didn't say the windshield vents..

There is a spot beside them with nothing cut out, if you have the capacity to cut a hole that could pass as a fairly even circle, and distance them equally apart, then you'd be able to flush mount them there.
The fact that the windshield isn't flat is also a good thing because it will have a wider field of reflection. If the tweeter isn't suppoised to be more then 6 inches away from the driver then why does Jeep, Chrysler, Dodge, Mercedes, and even Pontiac all mount them either in the dash or A-pillar/window location?

I suggest before you do the stock mount, wait for other people who have their tweeters mounted either in the dash or A-pillar location, or just the not stock location so you can have their opinions too. IMO the A-pillar location is great for wicked stereo imagining plus if they are in the stock location, you will have a very unbalanced sound stage because you will have highs comming from 5 feet away, and highs from the other side the are a mere 2 or 3. Why you think you can't hear the stock tweeters? Not only do they suck.. But also its a bad location....

Go with what YOU think would be best, but be sure to put some thought into it if you want a good setup. To each his own
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Just so you dont get confused, by driver i meant the mid range driver in the door...
Sorry about that

Good luck, and most of all enjoy your new sound.
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the ultimate setup = kick panels

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Enjoy "sweet-spot" stereo imaging in the driver'* seat when you install your component speakers in Q-Forms kick panel enclosures.

Q-Forms put more distance between your ears and your speakers, making the left and right sound sources as close to equidistant as you're going to get in a car.
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:30 AM   #27
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the ultimate setup = kick panels
I must agree good sir

Unfortunately, Q-forms doesn't make a kick panel for our cars...
Unless they do now! Which would be

If you ever find some that are made professionaly, drop me a line i'd love to get a set of kick panels and throw a pair of 6 1/2 '* in there.[/quote]
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zzzzzeke:
the ultimate setup = kick panels
I must agree good sir

Unfortunately, Q-forms doesn't make a kick panel for our cars...
Unless they do now! Which would be

If you ever find some that are made professionaly, drop me a line i'd love to get a set of kick panels and throw a pair of 6 1/2 '* in there.
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We do have kick panels, the speakers are already there...

What you can do for better imaging, is get tweeters that point, with a ring behind them that aims them. Tweeters aren't meant to be 6 inches from your ears, then the soundstage dosen't have time to develop. Otherwise you've got one tweetwer 6 inches from your ear, and one 4 feet from the other. The kick panels/door mounts are closer to putting the driver equadistant (as said before) from each speaker.
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We do have kick panels, the speakers are already there...
huh...u call the location in the doors kick panels??
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Haha dude...
Kick panels aren't in the doors (those are "door panels"), they are sort of on the floor. And the stock locations aren't good because they aren't equidistant at all
And you dont want tweeters 6 inchs from your ears, i dont know what your talking

But thanks for trying to make me look dumb.. hehehe
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