Im looking into a new heaunit, and found these two at the top of my list.. whaich one do people think is a better deal and why..

http://www.tweeter.com/product/index...entPage=family

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-ECLIPS...QQcmdZViewItem

pioneer

between the two, eclipse.

I do like my pioneer but those are nice

maybe a premire... but i dont like how they look

Out of those two I like the eclipse. But if you want a refurb and want to save 100 bucks:

http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/4040

yeah, ive seen a few places selling the refurbs for 120-150... definately something to consider

eclipse. they make EXCELLENT audio and video units as well.

i have an eclipse right now, and i love it, its 2yrs old and a base model, but it performs beautifully, amazing SQ for a base model unit... i wish the new ones werent so ugly, then i would buy one new

but if you are going for looks over sound quality/functionality I would for sure go with teh eclipse.

the reason i picked these two is because i dont like fancy looking radios, i prefer something that looks somewhat original to the car.. i dont like silly animations and blinky lights

the eclipse probably has better SQ aswell as the looks, however, the clarion can illuminate red to match the dash