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Old 09-28-2011, 09:50 AM   #1
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Hi, all! It'* been a while since I've posted. Been a busy year with a new baby and new house. Anyway... back to the Bonneville now!

I've finally gotten around to working on the wet carpent/drain tube issue I've had for so long. With the help of the great documentation here, I was able to locate where both front drain tubes are disconnected and fix the driver'* side. Unfortunately, I don't see the lower tube on the passenger'* side. I've afraid it may have fallen in the body panel. Does anyone have any tips or suggestions for accessing the tube or replacing it?
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Pick up some generic hose from a hardware store that is the correct size and feed it threw.
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I thought about that. My worry was that I need to connect the outlet somewhere. If I let the water drain into the body cavity, will it find its way out without getting into the cabin or causing rust problems, or do I need to feed it throught somewhere or connect it to something to get it out of the car?
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Remove the front fender liner (2 large black plastic pieces), and you will see a nipple in a grommet at the rear of the wheel well opening. This is the outlet end of the lower sunroof drain tube. Pull it out. Fish a wire down from the top through the upper drain tube, and look for that wire (use a flashlight) in the hole left by the grommet/tube you pulled out. Fish that wire out and tie it off. Leaving the wire in place, pull the upper drain tube out by feeding it away from the wire. Now feed a new tube around the wire until it comes out the wheel well. Cut about 6" off the lower drain tube so the grommet/nipple is on the 6" piece, and slide your replacement hose into the 6" piece as far as you can. Secure it with a zip tie, and then re-install the grommet. Cut the upper end of the new hose to lengthAttach the upper end of your new hose to the drain outlet on the sunroof pan and secure it with a zip tie.

The tricky part is finding the right wire that is thin enough to feed down the new tube, but stiff enough to allow you to push it through. I used aircraft cable, similar to what is used on garage doors rollers, but a little smaller in diameter.

Do not remove the upper drain tube without feeding the wire first, or you will never find the path from the top of the IP down to the wheel opening.
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I read about using wire to fish the hose through and I guess that'* where I'm getting held up. I removed the fender liner a few days ago but it was only one piece and I could only see the hinges for the front door. (You're talking about the fender line from the wheel well, right?) I'll take another look at it tonight and see if there'* another piece there that I can take off.
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Perhaps I should call it a wheel liner rather than a fender liner. The wheel liner is no where near the door hinges. To remove it, you have to jack the car up and remove the tire/wheel. The wheel liner is basically framing the wheel. It is in two pieces.
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Perhaps I should call it a wheel liner rather than a fender liner. The wheel liner is no where near the door hinges. To remove it, you have to jack the car up and remove the tire/wheel. The wheel liner is basically framing the wheel. It is in two pieces.
We're working in the same place. I'll just have to take another look because I didn't notice anything else to take off but the outtermost plastic liner. The car'* in the garage on a jackstand with the wheel off right now so it shouldn't be a big deal to take anothe rlook at it. I'll report back with what I find.
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There is nothing else to take off other than the liner to see the outlet nipple/grommet. The liner is a 2 piece construction, front and rear, and you have to remove the front section to get the rear off. Once you have both removed, look at the sheet metal forming the wheel well for a black rubber grommet about 1-1/2" in diameter on the rear vertical face about 6" inboard from the wheel opening lip, and about 6" above the bottom edge of the sheet metal.

If all else fails, take a picture of the wheel well area and post it. I will put an arrow on your picture showing you where to look.
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I found the nipple last night. I just didn't know what I was looking for so I was confused. The whole "two-piece" wheel liner thing was throwing me off because I thought I had to remove two pieces to get to the end of the drain hose. I actually found it by removing the dirver'* side wheel then pouring water into the drain and looking for it to exit. After I knew what to look for I felt stupid for not being able to see it in the first place. I didn't have time to run a new lower drain hose last night but I hope to get to it by this weekend. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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I used 4' per side of polyethylene tube (translucent white in color) purchased at Home Depot. I forget the diameter (5/16" or 3/8" ???), but take a sample cut off the upper tube and match that. By far the trickiest part was finding the right wire that was small enough to feed into the tube, but stiff enough to be able to push it through several feet of tubing. Like I mentioned, I used wire from a garage door. You want to end up with one piece of tube that goes from the 6" piece of the lower tube that has the nipple/grommet on it, right up to the connector on the sunroof tub. Push it as far as you can into the 6" piece to increase retention.
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