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Old 04-15-2008, 07:47 PM   #1
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On my way home from work just now some kid decided to cross the road in front of me without looking. He had what appeared to be a latex glove to his mouth. It seemed to require more attention to blow it up then he felt necessary to apply to protecting his own life.

Anyways, when I slammed on my brakes, instead of screeching tires, I got "PHHHSSHHHH" and little to no brakes.

I nursed it the next mile home using a combination of engine braking and e-brake. Oozed into the garage, got out to see the trail of brake fluid following my path and a puddle quickly starting to form under the driver side rear door.

So I popped one of the hard lines running to the rear brakes, it seems. Assuming a "patch" isn't safe enough to consider, what'* the best way to fix this? Are parts stores likely to be able to get these hard lines?
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Not likely. Either a dealer or a wrecker. :(
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they wont have them if you want pre-bent. but any parts store should have straight brake lines. they are easy to bend. a bender is only like 3 bucks. and you dont have to replace the whole thing. you can cut and flare the ends of the existing lines. and use the required double (maybe bubble) flared hydraulic unions.
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Here is my little brake line job from a few months ago... http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...028499#1028499

It was a total nightmare. Be prepared to spend a little more money then just the line just in case. I needed the whole line, wheel cylinder, and proportioning valve. Totaled about $75. You might get lucky and the line come right off no problem, but I wasn't that lucky.

You will likely have the "european" style flare, not the standard style, and IIRC 6 mm lines from the proportioning valves back.

I just bought the straight hard lines from Autozone and rented the bender tool. Most of the larger bends I just did by hand with no problem, but some tighter ones needed the bender. I just measured the lines on the car and got as close as I could with two seperate lines and a coupler. I ended up about 5" to long but I just made some extra bends and a slightly different route and it has worked perfectly ever since


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You won't find a pre-bent line at the dealer either... I looked Wrecker is probably not a good idea either, you will likely run into the same problems very quickly, IF you are lucky enough to find one that is even close to re-useable.
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So what happened to the kid?
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He ended up being the bleeder I mentioned in the title.
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Ok, not really. He got out of the way real quick when he saw the car coming from the other direction. I don't think he even saw me until he got to the other sidewalk.
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I can't tell if it'* coming out of the rusted proportioning valve or the rusted line. But I guess I'll be replacing this whole area.

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You shouldn't have lost all the brakes if only one line broke. Were the brakes really so bad that you needed to use the emergency?
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Good luck getting that line out of the valve, I had no such luck.. hopefully your luck is better then mine

That valve is a dealer only item, and cost me $45
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