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Old 02-06-2006, 01:54 PM   #21
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jr's3800,

I have a question about your post. Those GM part numbers for the lower intake gasket and coolant elbow, are these applicable to my 1995 Bonneville SLE? I think I'm going to order the Dorman UIM and the GM lower gaskets and elbow. Oh yes, I have two more questions. On the Advance Autoparts web site, the description for the Dorman product is "Dorman Intake Manifold: OE Solutions™; 1995-2003 Buick 3.8, Series 2". The part number is 615180. Even though the description says Buick, is this the correct part? Also does the FelPro gassket have the metal inserts? Thanks again for all of the help.

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jr's3800,

I have a question about your post. Those GM part numbers for the lower intake gasket and coolant elbow, are these applicable to my 1995 Bonneville SLE? I think I'm going to order the Dorman UIM and the GM lower gaskets and elbow. Oh yes, I have two more questions. On the Advance Autoparts web site, the description for the Dorman product is "Dorman Intake Manifold: OE Solutions™; 1995-2003 Buick 3.8, Series 2". The part number is 615180. Even though the description says Buick, is this the correct part? Also does the FelPro gassket have the metal inserts? Thanks again for all of the help.

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That would be the correct intake... The 2nd generation lower intake manifold gaskets should have the metal inserts.... Let me have a glance at the website...

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2nd design ones I've picked up didn't have the inserts. They were all plastic/rubber.
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First we have this...
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...number=MS95977

I believe that these have the locating pins...

Then we have this..
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...umber=MS959771


Judging by the prices you may be better off getting the gaskets and Elbow from your dealer depending on the price they give you...

I think I paid $50 for the 2nd generation GM gaskets, and $7 for the Elbow...

Being that you have a 95 Bonneville take the time to replace the Valve cover gaskets as well..

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2nd design ones I've picked up didn't have the inserts. They were all plastic/rubber.
Dealership gaskets the way to go? Any thoughts there Boosty?

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FelPro: The first design doesn't have the locating pins, Second has them..and looks a little different.

Metal inserts I think is dealer only at the moment. I haven't seen them to make an opinion yet.

Valve covers are easy on the NA motors with or without intake in place. If this was SC I'd suggest valve covers.

Overall opinion on the gaskets is up in the air.
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The GM OEM intake gasket is manufactured by Victor Reinz:
Manifold Set, Intake:
  • 1999-2003 K (Plenum Chamber Gasket Not Included) MS16203A
    1998 K (Plenum Chamber Gasket Not Included) MS16191A
    1997 K 1st Design, Except Locating Pins, (Plenum Chamber Gasket
    Not Included) MS16191
    K 2nd Design, Locating Pins, (Plenum Chamber Gasket Not
    Included) MS16191A
    1995-1996 K (Plenum Chamber Gasket Not Included) MS16191
    1990-1995 L (Plenum Chamber Gasket Not Included) Nitroseal MS15634
Plenum Gasket
  • 1995-2004 K Front Wheel Drive MS16206
    1993-1995 L MS14638

These are the part numbers for Corteco brand; another supplier for GM:
Intake QuicKit -
  • 1992-1995 VIN L 230025K
    1995-2001 VIN K 23984K
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jr's3800,

What are the guide pins? I assume they help line up the lower intake gasket. Do they come with the GM gasket? Also, the part number you gave for the GM gasket (GM Intake Gasket PN# 89017400 ). I assume that this is fine for a 1995 Bonneville?

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P.*. I apologize for all of the annoying questions. As it stands, I'm going to order the Dorman UIM. If you tell me that the above mentioned GM part # is good for the 1995 Bonneville, then I'm going to order the LIM gasket and the coolant elbow from GM parts direct.

P.*.*. Thanks for the hard work in answering my questions.
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jr's3800,

What are the guide pins? I assume they help line up the lower intake gasket. Do they come with the GM gasket? Also, the part number you gave for the GM gasket (GM Intake Gasket PN# 89017400 ). I assume that this is fine for a 1995 Bonneville?

Sincerely,
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P.*. I apologize for all of the annoying questions. As it stands, I'm going to order the Dorman UIM. If you tell me that the above mentioned GM part # is good for the 1995 Bonneville, then I'm going to order the LIM gasket and the coolant elbow from GM parts direct.

P.*.*. Thanks for the hard work in answering my questions.
The guide pins are little plastic pins that sit in the head to keep the alignment of the gasket... If you are going to get those gaskets at GM they will work on the 95 Bonneville... Thats what i used on my 95 SE... Yes the part numbers are correct..

When I did my intake in July, those gaskets were on backorder... I got lucky and they overnighted a set from Tampa FL... I got my gaskets from the dealership as I didn't have the time to wait...lol... I paid, oh did I pay...



GM PART # 89017400
CATEGORY: Manifold Gasket
PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $48.55
OUR PRICE: $27.67
DESCRIPTION: GASKET KI

GM PART # 24503423
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $8.37
OUR PRICE: $4.77
DESCRIPTION: PIPE ASM

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jr's3800, willwren, and everyone else,

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer all of my questions. I'm ordering the parts tomorrow. I imagine my brother and I will do the work shortly after getting the parts. When we're done I'll post the pictures and describe our work. Thanks again for all of the information. This site has been so helpful in keeping the Bonnie runnning.


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