Two seperate problems, or are they related? 1992 SSEI - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-06-2005, 11:47 PM   #1
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
albertaboy is on a distinguished road
Default Two seperate problems, or are they related? 1992 SSEI

I think that the two problems I'm about to describe are unrelated, but maybe they're not? Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated. I will post the quick versions.

1992 SSEI w/ 130 orig K

#1) For the past few days it has become increasingly difficult to start my car. My hunch is the starter is nearly gone. Sometimes makes the 'grindy' starter sound like something is missing, and other times it simply 'whirrs'. Tried cleaning the + connection at the battery, but truthfully the starter just makes sense. 130k + likely original starter + goddam command start that was in it before me + grindy noise = starter?
IS THERE A SPECIFIC STARTER I SHOULD BUY? AM I TOTALLY OFF THE MARK HERE?

#2) This is the weird one. Today, for the first time ever, there is a quite a puddle of oil on my driveway. Never leaked a drop before, but today there is likely half a liter on the driveway. Is there anyway that the two issues could be related? By trying repeatedly to get the starter to catch, is there any way that oil could be forced out somewhere (the supercharger?). Or could I have blown a gasket? I can't tell where the oil is leaking from, but it seems to be a steady leak as I went to pick-up my lady from her office, and when we left there was some oil on the ground.

Again, any help/advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks for looking, and have a great night.
albertaboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2005, 11:59 PM   #2
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 3,837
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
sqela is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Two seperate problems, or are they related? 1992 SSEI

Quote:
Originally Posted by albertaboy
I think that the two problems I'm about to describe are unrelated, but maybe they're not? Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated. I will post the quick versions.

1992 SSEI w/ 130 orig K

#1) For the past few days it has become increasingly difficult to start my car. My hunch is the starter is nearly gone. Sometimes makes the 'grindy' starter sound like something is missing, and other times it simply 'whirrs'. Tried cleaning the + connection at the battery, but truthfully the starter just makes sense. 130k + likely original starter + goddam command start that was in it before me + grindy noise = starter?
IS THERE A SPECIFIC STARTER I SHOULD BUY? AM I TOTALLY OFF THE MARK HERE?

#2) This is the weird one. Today, for the first time ever, there is a quite a puddle of oil on my driveway. Never leaked a drop before, but today there is likely half a liter on the driveway. Is there anyway that the two issues could be related? By trying repeatedly to get the starter to catch, is there any way that oil could be forced out somewhere (the supercharger?). Or could I have blown a gasket? I can't tell where the oil is leaking from, but it seems to be a steady leak as I went to pick-up my lady from her office, and when we left there was some oil on the ground.

Again, any help/advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks for looking, and have a great night.
the grinding could be the starter as for the leak it may not be related if possible try to look under the car and get an idea where its coming from
sqela is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 12:02 AM   #3
Senior Member
Certified GM nut
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Reutlingen, Baden-Wurttemburg, Germany
Posts: 1,935
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ryan is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey good to see another Albertan on here!

Your diagnosis on the starter seems accurate (although unfortunate :()

As far as the oil, there isn't really anyway it could be coming from the supercharger. It'* a sealed unit with its own oil for lubrication (which you should probably change, if you haven't already). I would be seriously concerned with that much oil loss. Check EVERYTHING. I'd check the drain plug, pan gasket, head gaskets, valve cover gaskets...just try and determine where the oil is coming from, and keep an eye on that level!
Ryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 12:14 AM   #4
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
albertaboy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
Hey good to see another Albertan on here!

Your diagnosis on the starter seems accurate (although unfortunate :()

As far as the oil, there isn't really anyway it could be coming from the supercharger. It'* a sealed unit with its own oil for lubrication (which you should probably change, if you haven't already). I would be seriously concerned with that much oil loss. Check EVERYTHING. I'd check the drain plug, pan gasket, head gaskets, valve cover gaskets...just try and determine where the oil is coming from, and keep an eye on that level!
Appreciate the advice. I think I'll just take it into the Pontiac dealership here in Okotoks tomorrow morning (if it starts) and let them have a look at it. Apparently the supercharger oil is good (they told me it was at the last tune-up anyhow) but I'll have them take a look tomorrow. My car looks exactly like yours (different ghetto gold rims, and no sunroof) same colour and all. Hopefully it'* nothing major...
albertaboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 12:17 AM   #5
Senior Member
Certified GM nut
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Reutlingen, Baden-Wurttemburg, Germany
Posts: 1,935
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ryan is on a distinguished road
Default

Are you from Okotoks or Calgary? I'm from High River originally. Which rims do you have?
Ryan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 12:53 AM   #6
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 12,432
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
J Wikoff is on a distinguished road
Default

The starter for the supercharged 3800 is pricey compared to the NA unit. That sucks, on top of the fact that noone normally stocks it, it'll take a day or two to come in. It sounds like yours is loosing control of the bendix (gear that turns the flywheel).

The oil, like others have said, could come from anywhere but the SC. Is there a specific spot the oil seems to be under? Start there, and work your way up.
J Wikoff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 01:44 AM   #7
Senior Member
Posts like a Corvette
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bolingbrook, IL Location: Clarkston, MI
Posts: 1,256
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
llBlazin_llLo is on a distinguished road
Default

Are you sure it is engine oil? If you have never had a problem with oil leaks then it is prob. your trans is overfilled or your powerstearing lines/rack.
llBlazin_llLo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 02:26 AM   #8
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 23
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
albertaboy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by llBlazin_llLo
Are you sure it is engine oil? If you have never had a problem with oil leaks then it is prob. your trans is overfilled or your powerstearing lines/rack.
Would that just start to leak out of the blue? I haven't added any fluid at all.
albertaboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 07:02 AM   #9
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS

Expert Gearhead
 
BillBoost37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Enfield, CT
Posts: 41,391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
BillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Leaks can start in many different ways. It is good you saw and checked your fluid levels. Keep them topped off while trying to determine where this leak is coming from.
BillBoost37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2005, 09:22 AM   #10
Senior Member
Posts like a Camaro
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Grand Rapids,MI
Posts: 981
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Masterbm is on a distinguished road
Default

I would give her a look underneath myself. I don't like the dealership. When I got the car it had tranny leak. They try to tell the tranny had failed. In realty it was leaking from tranny cooler(line rust at) got some high pressure hose and it was all good. As for the tranny it is fine never hear any from tranny. If it leak like mine it would only leak when the car was running. I got showed tranny fulid (lol). So I would a least try to find out the area were is come from so you know when they telling you bs
Masterbm is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
URGENT M90 Gen3 will not seperate. GonneVille Forced Induction 18 04-01-2008 09:30 PM
Superchips says they cant help me or is it they WONT BonEvilSSEi General GM Chat 27 07-28-2004 12:57 AM
is the GAIN control a seperate amp? phoenix_flame220 1987-1991 6 06-08-2004 02:17 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:51 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.