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Old May 23, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Dillon
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This isnt to say that the system will always be at that temp. During Hi speed WOT runs such as the 1/4 mile my system with a 160 will heat up to 180 during the run but then cool down as soon as I get out of the throttle. But during cruise or in town driving my temps are always at 160ish.
Rogue, the coolant temp must fluctuate, because if your coolant temp remained at 160 around town with a 180 thermostat, it would mean that no coolant was flowing through the radiator, right, as a 180 thermostat is closed at coolant temps of 160?
I run a 160 T-stat. Under hard driving conditions my coolant temps will rise to the points the fans turn on (165 for low and 175 for high) to cool it back down.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Would it be fair to say them, as your coolant temp is always below boiling, that the system never pressurizes, i.e., exceeds the boiling point of coolant (i.e., around 212?)
The boiling point of dex-cool in a 50% solution is 265F. I doubt any system requires the coolant to boil to pressurize..

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It is important to point out, as well, that the thermostat itself is a partial restriction to coolant flow. The traditional Pontiac V-8, for example, will promptly overheat without a thermostat in place, because transit time of the coolant through the radiator is reduced greatly. We remove the thermostat for the drag strip, but also have a restrictor plate in place of the thermostat to slow transit time.
Good information, I have run without a T-stat before and not noticed an overheat problem but I will keep the restricter plate in mind.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Good information, I have run without a T-stat before and not noticed an overheat problem but I will keep the restricter plate in mind.
Yeah, they're pretty high-tech-you knock out the middle of the thermostat and put it in.

Or, of course, you can buy one from Summit for $20.


It may not be a 3800 problem. The traditional Pontiac V-8 is known to be cranky about cooling. The modern version of the Ford flathead.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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given that the only difference in the stats is the temp rating, then the only difference would be the temp at which it opens. You will get quicker circulation with a 180 stat. Now if the diameter of the stat opening were to be changed it would alter the rate of circulation as if it were a metering device. In slowing down the flow, the coolant would remain in the radiator longer, as well as in the block longer. As long as the rediator can disperse heat quicker than the engine, the system would run cooler. That is the same reason race cars use restrictors instead of stats. It can meter the flow rate while eliminating the possible mechanical failure possibility.Nothing like puking a megabuck engine over a $5 part.
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