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Old 12-14-2005, 05:35 PM   #11
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make sure that when you replace, pat attention to the type, some of the SSEi'* have a gear reduction starter
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All SSEi'* came stock with a gear reduced starter... Some of the NA'* applications actually used that very same gear reduced starter.. Both are supposed to have the same amount of power, one is in a smaller lighter package...

The Starter will have a plastic shield with 2 screws... The batt cables, and the starter bolts and your there...

The gear reduced starters if bought at the parts store can be expensive...

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I replaced mone a couple weeks ago. Very simple; eta 15 minutes. Question:

What'* a gear reduction starter and what'* the difference in a non-gear reduction starter; advantages vs disadvantages?

How do I know if I got the correct starter? Will both work?

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I replaced mone a couple weeks ago. Very simple; eta 15 minutes. Question:

What'* a gear reduction starter and what'* the difference in a non-gear reduction starter; advantages vs disadvantages?

How do I know if I got the correct starter? Will both work?

Thanks in advance,

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The gear reduction starter is simmilar in a way to a power screwdriver... Its takes a smaller motor and produces plenty of torque... Believe it or not, its almost the same thing but the screwdriver is on a lot smaller scale...

It depends on what you put the starter on... I believe that is will fit with the 65-E trans... Don't quote me on that...

I actually installed a gear reduced on my 91 LE, fit great and functioned perfectly... Only change I had to make was the direction of the positive cable to the starter, and that was very minor...

I already have another Gear reduced for the 91 SSE waiting to go on... And when the one on the 95 Goes out( Its still very strong ) it will get the gear reduced...

A small note tho... These gear reduced units can easily run $200

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I already have another Gear reduced for the 91 SSE waiting to go on... And when the one on the 95 Goes out( Its still very strong ) it will get the gear reduced...

A small note tho... These gear reduced units can easily run $200
Did you get used, rebuilt, or new ones for yourself?
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I already have another Gear reduced for the 91 SSE waiting to go on... And when the one on the 95 Goes out( Its still very strong ) it will get the gear reduced...

A small note tho... These gear reduced units can easily run $200
Did you get used, rebuilt, or new ones for yourself?
Used...At first I wasn't totally sure if they would interchange to the older 3800'* so I bought a used unit( It had an AC Delco Reman sticker on it, got lucky )... So far I have had good luck with it, it good and strong all the time...

I now have another for the 91 SSE, it too is used... we'll see what happens with it when I actually get around to bringing the car back to its former glory... lol

I have a friend that needs one for his Park Ave so I may end up with another unit... LOL

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OK, thanks. Good to know.
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Well I bought the part, removed the plastic shielding, and saw that the starter was to so convently located above a crossmember making it darn hard to get at anything... so i took the cheaters way out and put it all back togther, drove it to the mechanic, and paid him $67 to do it for me. just thought i'd update...
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It'* a starter. I don't remember the specific mechianical names for the parts, but bascially, it'* spinning the starter gear but the part that pushes the gear out into the flywheel is failing. It may work sometimes now, but replace the starter sooner vs. later. It won't work like that forever.
The Bendix drive is bad. Better get that done quickly because if the starter spins for a few seconds before the Bendix drive engages, it will eventually take some teeth off the flex plate, and then you will have a job on your hands.
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