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Old 09-19-2003, 11:31 AM   #1
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this problem has been occuring for a long time... it comes and goes at varying levels of severity... she acts like the battery is dead, but the battery is fully charged.. anyhow, I made a movie clip to illustrate what it sounds like... it is 3.8 megs, so i don't expect everyone to help, only the hardcores

http://www.msu.edu/~michae32/starting_problems.avi

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WTF?

I t was hard to tell, did it actually start or was that you laying on the starter? Either way it didn't sound too good.
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I t was hard to tell, did it actually start or was that you laying on the starter? Either way it didn't sound too good.
Yes, it doesn't sound good at all. I was only able to hear the audio part of the movie but it sounds like it has something to do with the starter. Check to make sure all your connections to the battery and starter are clean and tight. I'm sure the other members will have a solution for you later.
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On my computer, it sounds like the fish in your aquarium are hungry.



How old is your battery? What are voltage readings before you hit the starter and after it starts?

If it'* a newer battery, thoroughly check & clean connections at battery, starter, & engine grounds.
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yeah it turned over... i'm replacing the battery and the battery/starter cables

i'm thinking that will fix it
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Check your ground connections first. Then check your positive feed to the starter. You can check for fuel pressure on the rail too. BTW, do you have spark? If not check the crank sensor for deterioration due to coolant leaking on it.
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I thought I heard a clicking noise while you were starting it? It'* possible the starter is drawing too many amps off the battery and going bad.

Also, it sounds like something under there has a bad bearing when the engine is running, like a bad water pump or alternator. Might just be the movie.
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Also, it sounds like something under there has a bad bearing when the engine is running, like a bad water pump or alternator. Might just be the movie.
I've heard that rattle, when the starter had a rusty shaft and was not retracting properly. The running engine was actually turning the starter 'cause the flywheel was still engaged... turning the starter motor into a generator... that rattle,... plus smoke in the electricals!!! That was on an '86 GM 4.3 liter.
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