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Old 03-09-2004, 07:05 PM
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Brake Kleen (with the little tube attached) and compressed air works wonders. You are going to be pulling the engine totally apart here anyway ( a good time to reseal everything anyway). Take your time and do a good job and don't skimp too much to save just a few dollars as it is never worth it. Good luck.
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That is what my dad said also. Being this much work, and $ I am just going to buy a used engine. I found one that is out of a 01 Grand Prix with 51,000 on it for $420 with about $200 to have it shipped. Everything local is greater than $800 with over 80,000 miles on them. This way I can pull my engine set it aside and put the new one in. Then I can work on mine as I go. Maybe someday get another trans, and computer and make a dune buggy out of it or something. Can you imagine a dune buggy with our engine, it pushes our big cars very well image something that weighs half or even a third as much.
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A little update.

I have an engine coming for my car. It is out of a 01 Grand Prix with about 51,000 miles on it. I ended up getting if for $430 with only $93 on shipping which includes them crating it. So my total was $523. It should be here by the end of the week. It should have been here already but there was some confusion with the engine. They said it was a California engine so it had different sensors so I would have to change all the sensors out (They also mentioned changing out the O2 sensor which means the exhaust headers are still on it which is even a bigger plus). They were going to locate me a different one but I just had them ship this one to me since I will have to switch all the sensors out to make it work in my 96 Bonneville anyways. I am getting a cherry picker from my Grandpa today or tomorrow so if the engine is here by wed or Thurs. I hope to have it on the road by the beginning of next week, by the end of next week at the latest. Wish me luck.

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If I don't get to caught up in the moment I will try and take some pics of the removal and installation. I am so ready to have my car back on the road I miss it so bad. I have been driving my wife'* Chrysler Town & Country, it is nice but nothing like my bonnie.

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Not sure about this, but you may have to stick with your old exhaust manifolds. Not sure if the GP'* are the same.
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The motor is in and running great! It was very clean internally. I didn't get any pictures. My digital camera is down. I just need to change the Transmission filter and repack the passenger’* side boot on the axle, it slipped off and leaked a bunch of the grease. I have put a lot of time into this. It only took about 3 hours to get the old engine out and so far my friend and I have put about 12 hours tearing the new engine down, putting it back together and installing it. We had to switch quite a few parts out from my engine but that was expected. I also went on down and change the lower intake gaskets since the ones out of my old engine were almost new. Of course it got the dorman upper intake, new oil pan gaskets off my old engine, which was also new. Then the bolt on stuff like the AC compressor, alt, rear exhaust manifold (the fronts were the same so I left them. Hopefully I will get the rest of the fluids change and the boot fixed so I can take it out tomorrow. It has been exactly a month today and I am getting really anxious to get in it a take if for a spin.
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Low milage cars rock! Make sure you report it!
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i know the feeling about that. hope you enjoy your "NEW" ride!!!
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Originally Posted by jr's3800
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The motor is in and running great! It was very clean internally. I didn't get any pictures. My digital camera is down. I just need to change the Transmission filter and repack the passenger’* side boot on the axle, it slipped off and leaked a bunch of the grease. I have put a lot of time into this. It only took about 3 hours to get the old engine out and so far my friend and I have put about 12 hours tearing the new engine down, putting it back together and installing it. We had to switch quite a few parts out from my engine but that was expected. I also went on down and change the lower intake gaskets since the ones out of my old engine were almost new. Of course it got the dorman upper intake, new oil pan gaskets off my old engine, which was also new. Then the bolt on stuff like the AC compressor, alt, rear exhaust manifold (the fronts were the same so I left them. Hopefully I will get the rest of the fluids change and the boot fixed so I can take it out tomorrow. It has been exactly a month today and I am getting really anxious to get in it a take if for a spin.
I'm going to make a small recomendation.... Once you get it running don't get down on it to hard for a few days, give the engine a little time, The longer it sat the more time it should be given... Good Luck and let us know how it goes..
Yea I planned on taking it easy. I could have killed my dad last night when we first got it running. I was in it trying to start it and it would never start so I got out and started checking wires and dad got in the car. I relized I didn't tighten up the Spark Control box. So I tightned it up and it started up. The first thing he did is start reving it up. I about jumped throught my windshield. I couldn't believe he would do something like that. He takes really really good care of his cars and always yells at me for being so hard on mine.

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Low milage cars rock! Make sure you report it!
How do I report it? Plus I am not exactly sure how many miles are on the engine. I just know it is a lot cleaner internally than mine was.
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It is finished.



It feels so good to drive my car again. I put the CV Boot back on and changed and filled the transmission fluid this evening and made a few other checks then I took it for a little spin. It drives great and the engine sounds so good and quiet, the water pump might need changed out but it has a very quiet and smooth idle. I am going to take it easy for a little while but it seems to have a little more power but I guess that was suspected replacing a 132,000 mile engine with a 51,000 mile engine. All together I probably put about 20 hours in it and had a friend help about 12 hours of that. I just wish it looked different under the hood. After all of that work and it looks exactly the same. The best thing about it is that I probably didn't spend over $600 including all new fluids, rear main seal in the tranny, new radiator hoses. Plus I might start selling some of the parts left over which will offset the cost even more.
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Wow!! Congratulations man! That'* a heck of a job to tackle.


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