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Old 02-06-2006, 03:38 PM   #1
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Looking to move the superchager bits from a donor SSEi into an L-27 equipped Lumina APV.

The van does not have the PASS key feature. I would like to rewire the PCM from the SSEi to always allow the fuel system/starter circuit to be energized.

I have not spoken to folks who bypass the PASS function when installing remote car starters, maybe some of you guys know a way as well. Thanks in advance.
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One way to do it is to pull the module and things from inside, then simply give it the proper resistor value.
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Agreed, thanks for the suggestion. However I was hoping someone had measured the PWM duty cycle and developed a circuit. I'm sure from PCM to PC, they see the same signal from year to year.

If no one responds, I'll scope the O/P of the PASS module and develop a circuit to O/P to the PCM...

Another question pops up, others who have tranplanted L-67'* into other applications may have stumbled on other obstacles, I would really like to hear of them or point me to the thread.

Thanks again....
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I'll scope the O/P of the PASS module and develop a circuit to O/P to the PCM...
That would be mighty nice of you. I did as Bill stated above by installing the VATS module and soldering in a resistor. Works great and only added a little time and effort. I wanted to have the PCM reprogrammed to omit the VATS but did not receive any responses from the two emails I sent. I still don't know if this is possible or not.
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Hmm, another option, reflashing the EEPROM. I will phone a local tomorrow to find out and report back.

This weekend I will be removing the drivetrain from the donor SSEi, along with a mounting list of electronics to satisfy the PCM.

Which brings me to another question; is there somehwere online other than eBay where I could let folks know I have complete donor SSEi that is intact? I figure on taking what I need and dropping the rest off at moy favorite wreckers. But if folks need something off of a 93' SSEi, I might be able to assist. Everything works except for the engine (the seller did not have "any" idea - might not be hurt at all).

So, anyone have other stumbling blocks they have experienced during tranplants? I just love the idea of a minivan walking away from "sports cars" as I carry model airplanes to and from the flying site...
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Which brings me to another question; is there somehwere online other than eBay where I could let folks know I have complete donor SSEi that is intact? I figure on taking what I need and dropping the rest off at moy favorite wreckers. But if folks need something off of a 93' SSEi, I might be able to assist. Everything works except for the engine (the seller did not have "any" idea - might not be hurt at all).
heck ya....ON HERE.....that is what the For Sale and Trade is for

what color is the interior, exterior....

im interested in the tails
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Interior is caramel, exterior is dark green. If you mean tail lights (or spoiler)...yes they are there. I'll post to the the "for Sale" forum, thanks...
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Any good reprogrammer can remove the pass key as well as many other things, have had this done on many Fiero L67 swaps. I am currently putting a series II 3800SC into a 95 Trans Sport van. On this swap I am using a GTP PCM in my experience the 98,99 GTP PCM'* function fine without the pass key and without being reprogrammed. If using a Bonneville PCM just get a pass key out of a car in the wreckers and wire it in. The key matches to the modlue not to the PCM in the Pass key II'*. Hide the key with its cylinder some where and only take it out when you don't fully trust where your car is parked, extra security car won't run with out it. The newer Pass key III'* GM fixed this problem and are much harder to use.
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