doing what i said will tell you if its a ball join. a Tie rod end will not shape up and down back and forth. with a left to right shake then ti can be either, but normally a tie rod.

well i went out, and i couldn't shake either tire. if they did move it was very little...

the left rear i felt more movement in left-right, nothing up/down from what i could tell...now im more aggravated...and i have calculus in an hour

tiny bit of movement could be a wheel barring also.

i definitely saw him wiggle the wheels left/right, and there was much more play than what i just tried

he could have had something loose... :?

i'm getting a second opinion, **** it, and f them if they are wrong...

Why must Guinevere always act up when I want to mod her or take her for vacation?
"Guinevere, listen here, we're going to Florida! Now get lined up and pack your fluids and DONT leak...otherwise i'll park you in the woods without a car cover until you decide to straighten yourself out!"

Dad came down to my grandparents just a few minutes ago with jack stands, jack and a light. we got the rear up and wiggled the wheels. The movement in the wheels was very very small, i couldn't see behind the wheel when i jacked it up earlier when wiggling it, but with two people we could see the ball joint was moving. The right rear is definitely bad, the left rear is bad as well but not as much.

IDK why the guy had such a hard time giving me a price while I was there, dad called up NAPA and they found the part easily and have it in stock, dad will be picking the part up in the morning, repairing tomorrow night after work and then alignment on Wednesday, i'll be home by Thursday to pick her up and we head out Friday morning...providing they dont have something else to tell me thats wrong.

meanwhile im stuck with the truck...



thanks for the help guys

exactly