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Old 10-21-2007, 10:14 PM   #11
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its on its way out now


we just needed a bigger wrench or three
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Yippeeee

( I sent mine to Dan the mechanic...lol)
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well we finished around 10:30-11:00
and I took the borrowed tool back to dad' friends house

we had to borrow two pipe wrenches a 16" adjustable wrench and a 35.25mm wrench (It was 35mm but we grinded it to fit about .25 mm)

well the car didn't seem to pull strong to one side, if it did pull it pulled to the right very slightly. But my steering wheel was about 30-45 degrees to the left when i was going straight, so that was weird driving.

I went in for an alignment this morning again, they tell, now they tell me my ball joints in both rear wheels are bad WTF why didn't they catch that yesterday...could have possibly had that fixed last night as well. Now I dont have much free time between now and Friday when i head for Florida for SEBF.

im pissed. they should have fond that esterday. a different guy was working on the car today and he said the guys sometimes don't check the rear tires...First he told me he couldn't align it if the rear tires were out. I said i understand but im sure anything you do will be better, you could atleast line up the steering wheel right. then he said it also depends on wheels being straight. and then i said well i would like you to try anyway. Then he saw how bad the front end was, and went ahead and did it. the front end is now perfect but its in the green/ok zone. the rears however are toes out, both wanna turn to my left while driving, its very minute and i dont notice it but its really gonna chop my tires up. The guy at the servce deck couldn't find the ball joints in the computer, he said he couldn't even find them for the newer model bonnies. So I figure i'll end up buying them myself, it'll be cheaper anyway. and depending on the difficulty do it my self. if its anywhere near as a pain in the arse as the tie rods they can do it, and im gonna try to demand that i only pay half of the labor since they only half checked the car on sunday...

anyone have expierence /w lower ball joints on the rear tires?
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:22 PM   #14
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Do these guys keep telling you stuff is bad just to do so? Or are they trying to get you yo spend more $$$?

And both of them bad at the same time?? I'm not buying it


Is there anywhere else you can take the car to get another opinion?

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Thats the same thing im thinking Don.

have someone else look at it.
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i saw that he was able to turn both rear tires noticeably (not rotate, turn)

these guys are pretty good, normally, i have a print out of the alignment...(ima try to take a picture of it and post t...

can it be identified if i showed you guys a picture?
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Turn?

As in Right to left like you would steer?

That would make me think there is a Rear Tie Rod end issue......

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maybe... but the real test is to just jack the car up. grab the wheel at the top and bottom and shake... if it move then there bad.

If it doesn;t then it should be good.
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heres the print out:

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Turn?

As in Right to left like you would steer?

That would make me think there is a Rear Tie Rod end issue......
Yes like steering it.

He said normally it is the tie rod but he said he sees it as the ball joint being bad...


and bandit i will go out and do that in a few, though all i have is my spare tire jack, to reason it shouldn't work...lol



Rock Auto has them listed but idk which one is what I need, they each look a little different. and one it $11 and the other is $55 (I dont think i'm ording from rock auto as i probaly wont get here in time + shipping charges....i just checked to estimate a price)
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